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re: Public Service Commission doing work for Data Centers shifting costs onto ratepayers.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:52 am to LSURussian
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:52 am to LSURussian
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Ratepayers will absorb AT MOST 50% of the costs of the new power plants.
What’s the self consumption vs grid export profile look like?
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Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:59 am to LSURussian
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Wrong again.
Ratepayers will absorb AT MOST 50% of the costs of the new power plants.
No.
The depreciation for these plants was negotiated at 15 years of which facebook will pay half.
The true depreciation for the plants will be at least twice as long, and Louisianians will pay that.
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Or, another way to look at it, Louisiana homeowners and businesses will be gaining access to long-term electrical power supplies for half the cost of new power plants.
Or, another way to look at it, Louisiana homeowners and businesses will pay higher rates to support a mega corporation that will use this facility to further develop AI, which will then abuse those same homeowners and businesses.
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Plus, Louisiana citizens will enjoy additional employment opportunities from the construction and operating of the new data centers and power plants which are primarily being built in rural, poverty stricken areas of our state. .
In my union, the local in this area already has enough work for their people. The pay rate is also low, so facebook will pay thousands of people like me a higher pay rate than the people of north Louisiana earn to come in and live and work in Monroe and the surrounding areas, where yes, we will support the local area some. But ultimately, we'll drive the rent market up for a few years and take most of our earnings back to our home states.
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I realize you and others always believe "they" are out to hurt you but it's not always the case.
Sometimes it's just your paranoia controlling your lives and there is no they.
This is the 21st century. You're only partly human now. You're mostly commodity and consumer.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:04 am to wadewilson
quote:Ah, the mystery is solved.
In my union,
The construction of the data centers, and maybe even the new power plants, must not be using union labor.
Thanks for the information.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:07 am to LSURussian
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another way to look at it, Louisiana homeowners and businesses will be gaining access to long-term electrical power supplies for half the cost of new power plants.
No they won't. They residential side will not get priority and will be on the hook for at least half the cost of generation investment. Check power restoration after Ida and other hurricanes.
Not to mention the only infrastructure improvement will be for routing the power to the datacenters. Regular public infrastructure will remain abysmal
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:11 am to LSURussian
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Ah, the mystery is solved.
The construction of the data centers, and maybe even the new power plants, must not be using union labor.
Thanks for the information.
You serious?
Data centers love IBEW. For the rest of my career I'll be able to work on these data centers for 6-8 months a year and make more than I could in a full year at home.
I'm just glad there's not one going up in my area.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:13 am to maanTigrepig
Not just a Louisiana thing. I live in Northern Indiana which is the epicenter of data center expansion right now. Our gas bill has two charges. A gar surcharge based on market price per therm and an ambiguous "delivery charge" that scales with your usage. Everyone's gas bills up here have tripped or quadrupled the last few months. People are protesting outside NIPSCOs headquarters and raging online about it and the news channels got involved.
The CEO put out a public statement saying that it's just been cold and people are using more gas than the summer months. Well that just enraged the public.
People started anonymizing their bills and posting them online and they are actually using less gas than a year ago, but it's the "delivery" charge that is 5 times higher than last this time last year. The CEO finally put out a statement that they will not release calculation values for the "delivery charge" but the increase is to support infrastructure improvements.
FOR DATA CENTERS
The "public utilities" who have a monopoly on the commodity are socializing the cost of infrastructure for the new data centers and people are rebelling
The CEO put out a public statement saying that it's just been cold and people are using more gas than the summer months. Well that just enraged the public.
People started anonymizing their bills and posting them online and they are actually using less gas than a year ago, but it's the "delivery" charge that is 5 times higher than last this time last year. The CEO finally put out a statement that they will not release calculation values for the "delivery charge" but the increase is to support infrastructure improvements.
FOR DATA CENTERS
The "public utilities" who have a monopoly on the commodity are socializing the cost of infrastructure for the new data centers and people are rebelling
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:23 am to LSURussian
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The construction of the data centers, and maybe even the new power plants, must not be using union labor.
Also, I know you don't see much of the world from your cubicle, but nothing of this scale is getting built without a shitload of skilled union labor.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:27 am to maanTigrepig
Louisiana will do anything but help families that work for a living. Seems like the entire budget goes to welfare leeches or corporate welfare and the worker bees have to fit the bill.
"wHy r all da young people leaving tHe sTatE?"
"wHy r all da young people leaving tHe sTatE?"
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:29 am to LSURussian
quote:The power production is for the data centers, not homeowners and businesses, therefore they will get priority while LA residents will continue to pay more for substandard utilities.
Or, another way to look at it, Louisiana homeowners and businesses will be gaining access to long-term electrical power supplies for half the cost of new power plants.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:36 am to LSURussian
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Or, another way to look at it, Louisiana homeowners and businesses will be gaining access to long-term electrical power supplies for half the cost of new power plants.
Plus, Louisiana citizens will enjoy additional employment opportunities from the construction and operating of the new data centers and power plants which are primarily being built in rural, poverty stricken areas of our state
100% agree…
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:39 am to maanTigrepig
Why use your profits/debts to pay for capital expenditures when you can just have the PSC rubber stamp your rate increases?
Especially with the Governor and the LED (Louisiana Economic Development) standing over your shoulder to make sure it happens no matter what.
Especially with the Governor and the LED (Louisiana Economic Development) standing over your shoulder to make sure it happens no matter what.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:44 am to LSURussian
One thing the article doesn't touch on (I think). Is that the data centers are paying only cover the power plant. And not the related infrastructure including the off-site transfer stations, power lines, pipelines, etc. (based on what we know of the mostly confidential META deal).
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:46 am to NukemVol
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Electricity is like any other commodity.
It's not though. It's a pseudo public resource.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:47 am to maanTigrepig
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Public Service Commission doing work for Data Centers shifting costs onto ratepayers.
Same story, different day. Taxpayers always get the shaft.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:49 am to wadewilson
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In my union
There it is. No wonder you’re melting down over this.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:49 am to NukemVol
quote:That isn’t true.
Electricity is like any other commodity. Price goes up with demand. You don’t get to claim it as only for residential.
If I have electricity, which is an absolute requirement, I can only purchase from one supplier.
It is essentially a public resource that a private entity is allowed to make money off of.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:50 am to maanTigrepig
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Don’t these baws know they should be working for the ratepayers and not big tech?
LOL! The ratrpayers don’t give really big donation checks to these political scumbags.
And to be fair to the owners of the data centers and to quote Dean Martin from Grand Lakes University.....
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 11:51 am
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:11 pm to wadewilson
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The demand is driven by a billionaire who is using it for a data center that will employ few people and pay much lower tax rates while destroying fresh water and putting off much of the cost of the new power plants on people who will themselves be a commodity and customer of said data center.
Yeah but at least they picked a shithole that smells like a wet fart to destroy rather than somewhere nice.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:12 pm to MMauler
Between this increase and the rate increase due to increased natural gas demand. People that got on the solar train when the stipends/grants were rolling are going to make out like bandits.
As far as I'm aware, 5 new Entergy plants (9 units) are set to start construction in 2027/2028.
3 for the Meta hyperscale data center
1 in Lake Charles (single unit)
1 in St. Charles
That's not counting projects that CLECO, LEPA, SWEPCO might have coming.
As far as I'm aware, 5 new Entergy plants (9 units) are set to start construction in 2027/2028.
3 for the Meta hyperscale data center
1 in Lake Charles (single unit)
1 in St. Charles
That's not counting projects that CLECO, LEPA, SWEPCO might have coming.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:14 pm to Swagga
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There it is. No wonder you’re melting down over this.
As discussed prior, I'm not. I can make a lot of money working on these projects.
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