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re: Public Service Commission doing work for Data Centers shifting costs onto ratepayers.

Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17979 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:15 pm to
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People that got on the solar train when the stipends/grants were rolling are going to make out like bandits.

I get at least 3 people a week asking me if I can open up our financing to Louisiana. Have been for over a year now. The writing is on the wall.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:15 pm to
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Yeah but at least they picked a shithole that smells like a wet fart to destroy rather than somewhere nice.


With local government officials that can be bribed cheaply and bound to an NDA, and a poor populace that nobody cares about.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134803 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:22 pm to
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I know you don't see much of the world from your cubicle
I've worked in 32 countries around the globe and I've walked on all 7 continents which includes Antarctica.

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skilled union labor
If they were "skilled" they wouldn't need to belong to a union to find a job.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:31 pm to
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skilled


You don't even know what that word means in the context.

We get work because we understand how to do the job.

We organized because that allows us to quickly find work anywhere on the planet.

I could quit a job in Florida on a Friday and be working a different job in California on Monday, and when I retire, I'll make more than I did working.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134803 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:36 pm to
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The power production is for the data centers, not homeowners and businesses,
Factually incorrect.

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New power plants being built by Entergy in Louisiana, specifically for projects like the Meta AI data center in Richland Parish, are primarily dedicated to serving that customer but are connected to the larger grid.

While designed for the data center, these plants can theoretically supply electricity to other customers, though they are largely financed by the tech giant's energy needs.

“These facilities represent the next step in Entergy Louisiana’s long-term strategy to modernize our generation fleet and deliver reliable, cost-effective power to our customers,” Entergy Louisiana CEO Phillip May said in a news release. “By investing in efficient technologies and robust infrastructure, we’re ensuring that Louisiana remains a competitive, attractive place to live, work, and do business both today and well into the future.”
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Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17979 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:37 pm to
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can theoretically supply electricity to other customers
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:40 pm to
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these plants can theoretically supply electricity to other customers


You probably should have edited that word out.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134803 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:52 pm to
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skilled



You don't even know what that word means in the context.
Oh, I know exactly what it means when said by a union goon like you.

I worked out of a union during the summers of my college years. I saw first hand the abuses construction companies had to accept from unions in order to keep their projects from being shut down.

For example welders who could only make 3 welds a day "for safety reasons because tired welders were a safety hazard" who would make his 3 daily welds on small instrumentation piping by 8:30 AM and then sit in the lunch shack until knock-off time at 3 PM while additional welders were making their 3 welds before joining him sitting on their asses.

So, contractors had to hire and pay 8 hours of wages to 4 or 5 welders who only "worked" 2 hours a day.

That's what you mean by "skilled." Skilled at stealing money.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134803 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:57 pm to
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You probably should have edited that word out.
Why?

I copied and pasted that quote word for word.

I would have deleted that word from the quote if I was a dishonest crook like you.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:11 pm to
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, I know exactly what it means when said by a union goon like you.

I worked out of a union during the summers of my college years.


Oh wow, you worked construction for a couple summers, you must know everything.

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That's what you mean by "skilled." Skilled at stealing money.


Whatever you say, sweetheart.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:11 pm to
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Why?

I copied and pasted that quote word for word.



Self awareness - zero percent.

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I would have deleted that word from the quote if I was a dishonest crook like you.


Ma'am, please close your legs. Your pussy stinks.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52505 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:18 pm to
Communities should be fighting back on any data center built near them. They inevitably frick over the local population through higher costs in electricity, increased clean water usage, and instead noise pollution.

They run these places as cheap as possible and don't give a frick about the local community. The employ a few during construction and majority of long term job creation is remote.

They are a net negative and once they become not profitable to retrofit they are abandoned and an eye sore
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38025 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:33 pm to
Just wait till the brown outs and black outs start after these data centers go live. Louisiana infrastructure can’t handle the added demand. But those centers won’t ever go dark. Your house might. But not the data centers.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134803 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:34 pm to
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Ma'am, please close your legs. Your pussy stinks.
As I wrote earlier, you have explained your paranoia and dishonesty.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15959 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:35 pm to
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For the rest of my career I'll be able to work on these data centers for 6-8 months a year and make more than I could in a full year at home

And once they're built, a contractor electrician will need to visit the data center to install new power whips or do UPS testing, what, once a month?

But politicians agree to concessions all over the place that just because the data center is as big as two football fields will "employ a bunch of people."

They won't. Rack and stack jockeys will probably be 10% of the amount of jobs promised. Everything else will be managed remotely or with contractors (electrical, HVAC, etc.)
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78325 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:55 pm to
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politicians agree to concessions all over the place that just because the data center is as big as two football fields will "employ a bunch of people."


I don't know what wages they will garner but there are a considerable amount of people who work at datacenters. The numbers rival some of the petrochem plants up and down the river.

It is highly variable of course.

You would hope the politicians would put performance/employment clauses.....you would hope.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41509 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:58 pm to
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And once they're built, a contractor electrician will need to visit the data center to install new power whips or do UPS testing, what, once a month?


I don't know what that entails. My guess is that they negotiate service agreements with local electrical contractors. They could hire and train their own people and travel them to different data centers, but I'm sure they need somebody locally to respond to any kind of emergencies.

They also will have their own full-time maintenance employees who can do a lot of different things and basic tasks, but they'll need technicians in various trades for bigger and more detailed jobs.

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But politicians agree to concessions all over the place that just because the data center is as big as two football fields will "employ a bunch of people."



Thousands of new jobs during construction. Maybe 100 after the project is done, and they'll bring most of those people from elsewhere. There will be a little more permanent work for skilled tradesman in the area, but that's it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40988 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Don’t these baws know they should be working for the ratepayers and not big tech?


Which one funds their campaigns?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15959 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 2:27 pm to
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My guess is that they negotiate service agreements with local electrical contractors

That's exactly what it entails. The first data center I worked in was tiny, about 2000 systems to maintain, that had maybe four people dealing with the data center itself (remote access from offsite in 2005 was much shakier than it is now.)

The entre rest of the staff that worked at the company could have been in Palo Alto (150 people) except for those four people and the occasional contractors. I've written "brochures" and statements of work that are pretty clever with wording, usually around a lack of specificity in key areas (saying they'll get 24x7 support without saying where that support is coming from,) etc. That's exactly what the cloud providers/data center operators do when negotiating with government entities for purchase/build agreements and incentive packages. I can spot it immediately, but the smoothbrains that people elect do not.
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