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Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:15 pm to DesScorp
Changing the school hours later and 4 days a week should help improve things.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:16 pm to Lexis Dad
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No.
Thank Dubya and the bi-partisan coalition that passed the garbage known as No Child Left Behind.
One of the single worst pieces of legislation ever passed in this country's history. It's one of the main reasons public education has taken a nosedive the last 2 decades.
To be fair, the intentions Bush had behind NCLB were genuine. It just muddied the waters and it became a bloated mess.
If it's so bad, why hasn't the head of the Teacher's Union, Randi Weingarten, stepped up to fix it with new proposals during her tenure on the DNC with D Presidents and Congresses?
Blame a local D, and blame her too. NCLB was 24 years ago.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:18 pm to TigerHornII
I think we should throw more money at it. That always works.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:21 pm to DesScorp
bad kids who don't want to be in school should drop out IMHO
anyone who went to public school can remember many classes that were always disrupted by one or two shitty kids
anyone who went to public school can remember many classes that were always disrupted by one or two shitty kids
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:22 pm to DesScorp
World needs ditch diggers too. frick em.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:48 pm to DesScorp
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n most states, 12th graders have the highest rates of chronic absenteeism, often far exceeding state averages. In Mississippi, for example, the overall absenteeism rate was 24%, but among seniors, it soared to 41%. Several other states have senior absenteeism rates above 40%, with rates in the District of Columbia and Oregon exceeding 50%.”
Not saying this applies here, but I skipped way more as a senior than I did the first 3 years. Seniors had half day on Fridays if they had enough credits, and I skipped most of those. Of course we were the "Skippers", so I dont know if that was the same everywhere.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:35 am to EST
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What are teachers supposed to do about chronic absenteeism? We can't drive the bus and force students in every morning.
This has nothing to do with blame and everything to do with less students should equal less staff, but it doesn't.
Generally when you lose half your customers, you cut back on employees.
But these school districts, despite less students are still fully staffed, still hiring, still pushing for raises.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:38 am to DesScorp
Looks like mostly present attendance.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:39 am to DesScorp
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Maybe we should change the culture and make it acceptable to quit school at 16 and get a GED if you're going to work or into an apprenticeship.
If that was what is happening. They aren’t quitting school because they are ready to work. They are quitting to sit home, “hang out”, and get right on the dole.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 11:08 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I’m not blaming them, but generally when you don’t have customers, you cut back on your workforce. At least that happens everywhere but government.
But the fact is that those students are still enrolled with that school. They may not be there today but they might be there tomorrow. You can’t cut teachers and give a teacher a class roll of 50 students because you assume about half won’t be there on any given day. What do you do when 45 are there and there literally aren’t enough seats/desks and you can’t send them to another teacher or class because you got rid of that person?
Where I teach there’s a strict attendance policy. More than 6 unexcused absences means you have to start attending attendance recovery which is like after school detention. If they don’t make the days up they automatically receive all Fs. If they get doctors notes all the time then a meeting is held and if they truly have chronic issues then homebound services it is. It must work because our attendance is very good, 90%+ on any given day.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:20 pm to BigB0882
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But the fact is that those students are still enrolled with that school.
This goes beyond just this article in the OP. There are many permanently lost students that aren't coming back.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:23 pm to DesScorp
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Public schools: accelerating dropouts and “chronic absenteeism “
And that's just the teachers!
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:32 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This goes beyond just this article in the OP. There are many permanently lost students that aren't coming back
And those kids would not stay on a school’s roster more than the remainder of that school year. When a new school year begins the student has so many days to show up and if they don’t they are dropped from the school and are NOT factored in to their budgeting that is typically based on a count done October 1st. There is no such thing as an 8th grader who disappeared and yet the school system continues to get money for that kid until they would have graduated. That’s not how it works.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:35 pm to Prodigal Son
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:41 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Education is broken in the US.
I’ve been telling y’all this for years on here. It’s exhausting because those who have the power to make change are too scared to rock the boat (parents) to make it happen.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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And not one teacher or admin lost their job. Probably all got raises.
Yup, and in Chicago the union is fighting tooth and nail to keep every one of those half empty schools open to keep the gravy train flowing.
Things they do not care about:
1) The kids and their education
2) Taxpayer money being wasted by the millions
It's disgusting.
And as we all know, the downstream effect here is an increased wealth gap and an uneducated adult population upon which the "make them pay their fair share" and "muh racism" Marxists can use to rise to power. It's going exactly the way Weingarten and her ilk want it to.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:46 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:While there are some crappy teachers, the blame falls on the parents for not doing their job and getting their children to school. It is NOT the responsibility to the school to make sure the kids go to school. Lazy parents who just don't give a shite are the issue.
And not one teacher or admin lost their job. Probably all got raises.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:46 pm to DesScorp
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As much as it failed to fix the problem, NCLB was at least a serious attempt to redress the issue of chronic social promotion in inner-city schools, where you had “graduates” that couldn't add/subtract nor read/write.
Here's a crazy idea...we tell the unions to go frick themselves and hire and promote and pay teachers based on their effort and the impact they create. You know, the model most successful private businesses use. And those teachers that suck or are unneeded for whatever reason, you get fired.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 6/26/25 at 1:52 pm to BigB0882
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But the fact is that those students are still enrolled with that school.
Not sure I'd call that a "fact". This is in Chicago:
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There are currently 325,305 students enrolled in CPS, according to CPS’ newly released 20th Day Membership Report.
This is the second school year in a row CPS has recorded enrollment growth after the district experienced 11 years of enrollment decline. The district’s 20th day enrollment is down 18%, or 71,378 students, since 2014. The largest decrease is Black students at 29%, or 44,680 students.
Families have been ill-served by CPS as evidenced by students’ low proficiency rates in reading and math. If CPS hopes to establish a new trend of rising enrollment and attendance, district leaders must reverse CPS’ harmful trend of low proficiency.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 1:52 pm
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