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re: Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent. He’s scheduled to be executed tonight.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:43 am to Privateer 2007
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:43 am to Privateer 2007
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Piece of shite had manslaughter, robbery, pedophilia etc on record. Should have never been free.
Correct.
He had said he and his buddy were gonna go out and "do a little B&E" basically for fun. By the way, Wiki mentions that he planned on raping the 9 year old, but he didn't do that. Just shot her in the face twice with a .357 Magmum.
Also, the 5 year old. One of the family friends had dropped her off at the house from (I think) a girl scouts meeting. And it's likely that when she entered the house it was when everything was going down. I can't imagine the terror of a five year old walking into a scene like that with her mother and sister. But the poor lady who dropped her off always lived with guilt about it, even though she obviously could not have ever known what was happening. I always felt bad for her.
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Glad to hear this piece of shite suffered in electric chair.
Burns to his groin.
Profuse bleeding from nose.
There was a HUGE deal made out of the blood on his shirt in the media. Everyone was screaming about it being cruel and unusual punishment, some reported that his ears bled I believe, all sorts of stupid shite. What happened was that he weighed like 400 pounds and had a simple nose bleed due to high blood pressure, and it happened to leak down his shirt and created a huge blood stain on his white shirt (about dinner plate size).
If you Google his name and "execution" you can easily find pics of him post-death to see what I'm talking about. But that uproar is why he was the last person executed in Florida via electric chair. One of my aunts was in the room and was able to witness the execution.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:44 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:03 am to riverdiver
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o note, I do not believe the death penalty should be used for a gas station shooting in a robbery that went wrong
If the robbery went right then the death penalty would be ok?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:07 am to John88
quote:Sounds more like they are unsure of his guilt. Regardless, his execution should be stayed.
Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:11 am to CocomoLSU
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For those interested, this was the piece of shite that murdered my family: Allen Lee Davis.
Jesus Christ... that was a hard arse read. Wish I didn't.
Sorry for your aunt and cousins. That ordeal has to be about impossible to accept.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:13 am to stout
He might be regretting that statement right about now
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:24 am to i am dan
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Jesus Christ... that was a hard arse read. Wish I didn't.
Sorry for your aunt and cousins. That ordeal has to be about impossible to accept.
It happened when I was very young (like 2 and a half), so it wasn't hard on me really. But I saw my mom and a lot of my family struggle with it for years (and still to this day sometimes). So even for us in the family that weren't heavily involved (or alive) at the time when it happened, it's ingrained into our history together.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:39 am to John88
There are two people that can easily put a stop to it. One is in Jefferson City, the other in DC. Full disclosure, I don't know the facts of the case.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:44 am to Sam Quint
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add into that equation the technology available to the government now with which they can generate videos and audio of whatever they want. it's basically the beginning of the Running Man, but even worse now. do i put it past the government to fake a video or audio confession? no. do you?
You must have a problem with convictions altogether then.
Certainly you aren’t ok with putting a “murderer” away for life with system that is so corrupt.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:53 am to Narax
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Nearly 2.5% of those convicted to die were later proven innocent.
Not proven innocent, many of them actually did it but procedurally the case had problems, often prosecutions have technical issues that get uncovered by...
That is incorrect. There are also those who have had new trials etc due to technicalities. 2.5% have been released because evidence which was available at the time of trial which would have proven their innocence was squashed or the technology wasn't trusted. That evidence proved there were incapable of having committed the crime they were convicted of. That is a far cry from getting a new trial on a technicality or some other typical way people get out of prison.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Random people who have no criminal history aren’t being convicted of murder wrongfully.
They are indeed being convicted of murder wrongfully. So are people who do have a history of criminal activity. The thing with this is that when a person who is the scum of the earth is convicted of a crime they did not commit the person who did commit the crime is still at large. It is not an eye for an eye situation, the person wrongfully convicted may be the worst human being who ever lived. Convicting that person of a crime they did not commit does nothing to ensure the guilty party is not able to commit more crimes. Otherwise we could just arrest and imprison someone every time a crime is reported and pretty soon there would be no crime.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:03 pm to moneyg
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Certainly you aren’t ok with putting a “murderer” away for life with system that is so corrupt.
well, it's true that i have less and less faith in criminal convictions on the whole, based on what i've seen develop in the last five to ten years, but i'm also a realist and i understand that there has to be law and order and a system in place to punish wrongdoers. but even if it's decades later, there is at least a system in place that can provide a semblance of justice and restitution for a person who has been wrongfully convicted.
you cant un-death penalty someone.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:12 pm to Townedrunkard
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If I had to guess the DA office is now some liberal Soros backed group and not the original staff that convicted him years ago. That’s why they are pushing this.
That’s a good point. Are the prosecutors really the same? Or just the same office?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:05 pm to Narax
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To note, I do not believe the death penalty should be used for a gas station shooting in a robbery that went wrong.
Should be an automatic death penalty as it should for every forcible felony that results in an innocent dying whether intentional or not.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:19 pm to AwgustaDawg
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2.5% have been released because evidence which was available at the time of trial which would have proven their innocence was squashed or the technology wasn't trusted. That evidence proved there were incapable of having committed the crime they were convicted of. That is a far cry from getting a new trial on a technicality or some other typical way people get out of prison.
You posted that the data you're using is since 1973, which predates prevalent DNA use by a couple of decades. So what technology wasn't trusted before the 90s that would have exonerated people? Were the majority of those 2.5% released pre-DNA?
Also, how many of these cases involved evidence that had been suppressed? If you're saying these releases weren't based on re-trials or technicalities, how did the evidence come to light?
I'm just curious since you haven't posted the source for these numbers.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:26 pm to nvasil1
I mean...he's dead now, right?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 2:02 pm to nvasil1
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You posted that the data you're using is since 1973, which predates prevalent DNA use by a couple of decades. So what technology wasn't trusted before the 90s that would have exonerated people? Were the majority of those 2.5% released pre-DNA?
Usually this claim is about things like matching bitemarks or fingerprints, which the congressional study said shouldn't be used as absolute proof of positive ID.
Meaning, eg, if a matching bite mark was used as evidence, they now claim it could have been anyone's matching bite mark, unless you prove no one else in the world matches.
Of course the narrative has interpreted this as proof of innocence in such cases.
When really it just downgraded most pre-dna evidence to "circumstantial if matching, but exculpatory if not".
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:31 pm to riverdiver
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Why not?
Honest question. The perp knowingly took a loaded gun, walked into an establishment with the intent to use it to rob someone.
For whatever reason, they aimed the gun at an innocent person, pulled the trigger, and ended the life of someone.
I feel the death penalty is totally appropriate for that course of action
Going to still disagree with you, the death penalty should involve premeditated murders.
No one would ever get the death penalty if you hand it out like candy.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:50 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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So he was convicted purely off of circumstantial evidence??? Something's off here
And exhausted all of his appeals….there is a whole shitload of information that is not being said here…
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:54 pm to Narax
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Going to still disagree with you, the death penalty should involve premeditated murders.
how is knowingly and willingly carrying a loaded firearm into a store with the intent to rob it by force and you kill someone with said firearm not premeditated in your mind
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