re: Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent. He’s scheduled to be executed tonight.

Guilty but the media slant will have you think otherwise.

All this is, is a case of anti death penalty vs pro.

frick him. He did it.

He only took that side because Marcellus is a black man





Oops, sorry c on z… a Black man

And now that he is gone (along with one in Texas who murdered his infant son), time to play the song we play around here when we hear the good news:

Renegade

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feel free to do ur own research

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No. Because it’s coming you we know it’s bullshite.

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Look, i dont know if this particular guy is guilty or innocent.. what i do know is that over the last 45 years or so, there have been dozens of people exonerated *after* they were put to death (sorry, im at work so no link, feel free to do ur own research).. if that number were only “one”, then i would say it’s too many and we need to eliminate the death penalty.. i dont want to have any part of playing god when it comes to people’s lives, especially when so many have been found to be innocent after it’s too late .

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There was a guy several years ago in Dauphin Island, who threw his kids off the DI Bridge to spite his wife. That case 100 percent deserved the death penalty - I don’t care if he “understood”’what he was doing or not.

At the same time, I think the most famous example of an egregious case of error involves the guy in Texas whose kids died in a fire and the conviction was based in pseudo science that has been completely debunked.

This other case in Texas with “shaken baby syndrome” has a similar pseudo science component to it. In both cases no doubt someone died, but there seems to be doubt as to whether it was the result of a crime.

So yes, my support of the death penalty is predicated on not only beyond a “reasonable” doubt, but a shadow of a doubt and an absolutely fair trial and due process.

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How do 3 people get far enough in life to post on TD and never see Pulp Fiction?

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All these Pulp Fiction references and it's not even the same name.

Ving Rhames played Marsellus Wallace in the movie, not Williams.

Wow. Go sit in the shame corner dude.

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What if the number of people deterred from killing due to the death penalty is enough to save the lives of thousands of innocent people?

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Imagine thinking that the death penalty is a “deterrent”, when people still die by homicide by the thousands each year…. You know what is a deterrent ? Throwing someone into squalid prison conditions with hard labor and throwing the key away…. Now i am not as dense as you, so i am not suggesting that murders would cease to happen.. i am saying that anyone who thinks that the death penalty is a deterrent is a fricking moron .

For all the people that say the death penalty is wrong and that life in prison is a harsher sentence, have you ever seen someone try to appeal their sentence for the death penalty. I have seen many, practically all, appeal the death penalty.

Since 1973 around 8500 people have been sentenced to death in the US. Somewhere around 1600 have been executed. Around 200 individuals have been exonerated off the crime they were convicted of....not had sentences reduced, exonerated - cleared of the charges. Nearly 2.5% of those convicted to die were later proven innocent. That in and of itself is unacceptable to anyone lacking a taste for blood. Logically it also means that somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 people who were executed by the state were not guilty of the crime they had been convicted of.

If one is bent on punishing those convicted of a crime, innocent or not, it is easier to keep innocent people in prison but not on death row than it is to keep them on death row because there is a GANG of very capable and determined attorney's who will go to bat for those on death row who do not have the inclination to go to bat of the wrongfully convicted who are not about to be killed by the state.

The group of people who are strong advocates for capital punishment in this country also tend to think that government is incapable of doing much if anything efficiently and correctly, yet they are perfectly fine with the state executing people even with irrefutable proof that the state at least sentences 2 innocent people out of every hundred sentenced to death. Personally I do not think there is an acceptable number of innocent people the state can execute in my name....it certainly is not 2 in 100.

Hundreds of studies around the world indicate the death penalty has no deterring effect on crime because to do so would require criminals to consider the consequences of their actions before acting, something that criminals as a group are not noted for doing. Why we continue to spend piles of cash prosecuting death penalty cases when there is no indication it makes a difference in crime rates and we know that about 2 in 100 convictions are wrong is beyond me but there is an element of bloodlust in it for certain....