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re: Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent. He’s scheduled to be executed tonight.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:02 pm to c on z
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:02 pm to c on z
Dude seriously, no one actually doubts that he killed her.
LINK
Here's another one where decades later they are pretending that justice can't be trusted.
The guy literally murdered someone hours later, and the very same anti law mafia are working overtime to prevent justice.
These people did it, they got fair trials with solid evidence.
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Here's another one where decades later they are pretending that justice can't be trusted.
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Less than 12 hours after he was convicted of Graves' murder, Owens also killed fellow prisoner Christopher Bryan Lee, 28, in a jail cell argument
The guy literally murdered someone hours later, and the very same anti law mafia are working overtime to prevent justice.
These people did it, they got fair trials with solid evidence.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:19 pm to Narax
Guilty but the media slant will have you think otherwise.
All this is, is a case of anti death penalty vs pro.
frick him. He did it.
All this is, is a case of anti death penalty vs pro.
frick him. He did it.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:28 pm to jizzle6609
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I believe Texas only issues a last meal from the kitchen in Huntsville.
Correct. Lawrence Brewer (one of two executed for the lynching of James Byrd Jr.) ordered an extremely large meal but didn't eat it. After that, Texas Senator John Whitmire (now Mayor of Houston, and a Democrat) threatened legislation to end the "last meal" practice, and now the last meal is whatever is on the menu for that day.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:31 pm to Narax
He only took that side because Marcellus is a black man
Oops, sorry c on z… a Black man
Oops, sorry c on z… a Black man
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:34 pm to c on z
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It’s a shame he just got executed.
Nah, not really. He murdered another person, and finally got a just punishment - and the ONLY fitting punishment for murdering another- for his actions.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:42 pm to Quidam65
Look, i dont know if this particular guy is guilty or innocent.. what i do know is that over the last 45 years or so, there have been dozens of people exonerated *after* they were put to death (sorry, im at work so no link, feel free to do ur own research).. if that number were only “one”, then i would say it’s too many and we need to eliminate the death penalty.. i dont want to have any part of playing god when it comes to people’s lives, especially when so many have been found to be innocent after it’s too late .
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:45 pm to BK Lounge
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feel free to do ur own research
No. Because it’s coming you we know it’s bullshite.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:58 pm to BK Lounge
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i dont want to have any part of playing god when it comes to people’s lives
Good, then stay out of it
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:32 pm to BK Lounge
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Look, i dont know if this particular guy is guilty or innocent.. what i do know is that over the last 45 years or so, there have been dozens of people exonerated *after* they were put to death (sorry, im at work so no link, feel free to do ur own research).. if that number were only “one”, then i would say it’s too many and we need to eliminate the death penalty.. i dont want to have any part of playing god when it comes to people’s lives, especially when so many have been found to be innocent after it’s too late .
There was a guy several years ago in Dauphin Island, who threw his kids off the DI Bridge to spite his wife. That case 100 percent deserved the death penalty - I don’t care if he “understood”’what he was doing or not.
At the same time, I think the most famous example of an egregious case of error involves the guy in Texas whose kids died in a fire and the conviction was based in pseudo science that has been completely debunked.
This other case in Texas with “shaken baby syndrome” has a similar pseudo science component to it. In both cases no doubt someone died, but there seems to be doubt as to whether it was the result of a crime.
So yes, my support of the death penalty is predicated on not only beyond a “reasonable” doubt, but a shadow of a doubt and an absolutely fair trial and due process.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:39 pm to Saintsisit
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How do 3 people get far enough in life to post on TD and never see Pulp Fiction?
All these Pulp Fiction references and it's not even the same name.

Ving Rhames played Marsellus Wallace in the movie, not Williams.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:42 pm to IAmNERD
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All these Pulp Fiction references and it's not even the same name.
Ving Rhames played Marsellus Wallace in the movie, not Williams.
No shite, Sherlock. Thanks for being this guy.

Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:44 pm to IAmNERD
Wow. Go sit in the shame corner dude.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:38 pm to BK Lounge
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if that number were only “one”, then i would say it’s too many and we need to eliminate the death penalty
What if the number of people deterred from killing due to the death penalty is enough to save the lives of thousands of innocent people?
Are you saying we should let them die?
To note, a number of these stage exonerations are only due to original witnesses having died.
There are a few, which is why the death penalty is often (and should be) held to a higher standard of proof and viciousness.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:46 pm to Narax
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What if the number of people deterred from killing due to the death penalty is enough to save the lives of thousands of innocent people?
Imagine thinking that the death penalty is a “deterrent”, when people still die by homicide by the thousands each year…. You know what is a deterrent ? Throwing someone into squalid prison conditions with hard labor and throwing the key away…. Now i am not as dense as you, so i am not suggesting that murders would cease to happen.. i am saying that anyone who thinks that the death penalty is a deterrent is a fricking moron .
Posted on 9/25/24 at 5:18 am to IAmNERD
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Ving Rhames played Marsellus Wallace in the movie, not Williams.
Damn if only you would have said this yesterday, you could have kept us all from making fools of ourselves. I blame this on you.

And to think as you were typing this, you thought you had this huge gotcha moment.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 6:14 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 5:29 am to BK Lounge
For all the people that say the death penalty is wrong and that life in prison is a harsher sentence, have you ever seen someone try to appeal their sentence for the death penalty. I have seen many, practically all, appeal the death penalty.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 5:52 am to John88
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And even the office that prosecuted Williams, the St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office, has led the charge to free Williams from prison.
I’m not saying the guy isn’t innocent but the STL county DA’s office is now run by a SOROS backed Marxist. Dude would ask for the DP for Hannibal lector
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 5:53 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:00 am to John88
Since 1973 around 8500 people have been sentenced to death in the US. Somewhere around 1600 have been executed. Around 200 individuals have been exonerated off the crime they were convicted of....not had sentences reduced, exonerated - cleared of the charges. Nearly 2.5% of those convicted to die were later proven innocent. That in and of itself is unacceptable to anyone lacking a taste for blood. Logically it also means that somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 people who were executed by the state were not guilty of the crime they had been convicted of.
If one is bent on punishing those convicted of a crime, innocent or not, it is easier to keep innocent people in prison but not on death row than it is to keep them on death row because there is a GANG of very capable and determined attorney's who will go to bat for those on death row who do not have the inclination to go to bat of the wrongfully convicted who are not about to be killed by the state.
The group of people who are strong advocates for capital punishment in this country also tend to think that government is incapable of doing much if anything efficiently and correctly, yet they are perfectly fine with the state executing people even with irrefutable proof that the state at least sentences 2 innocent people out of every hundred sentenced to death. Personally I do not think there is an acceptable number of innocent people the state can execute in my name....it certainly is not 2 in 100.
Hundreds of studies around the world indicate the death penalty has no deterring effect on crime because to do so would require criminals to consider the consequences of their actions before acting, something that criminals as a group are not noted for doing. Why we continue to spend piles of cash prosecuting death penalty cases when there is no indication it makes a difference in crime rates and we know that about 2 in 100 convictions are wrong is beyond me but there is an element of bloodlust in it for certain....
If one is bent on punishing those convicted of a crime, innocent or not, it is easier to keep innocent people in prison but not on death row than it is to keep them on death row because there is a GANG of very capable and determined attorney's who will go to bat for those on death row who do not have the inclination to go to bat of the wrongfully convicted who are not about to be killed by the state.
The group of people who are strong advocates for capital punishment in this country also tend to think that government is incapable of doing much if anything efficiently and correctly, yet they are perfectly fine with the state executing people even with irrefutable proof that the state at least sentences 2 innocent people out of every hundred sentenced to death. Personally I do not think there is an acceptable number of innocent people the state can execute in my name....it certainly is not 2 in 100.
Hundreds of studies around the world indicate the death penalty has no deterring effect on crime because to do so would require criminals to consider the consequences of their actions before acting, something that criminals as a group are not noted for doing. Why we continue to spend piles of cash prosecuting death penalty cases when there is no indication it makes a difference in crime rates and we know that about 2 in 100 convictions are wrong is beyond me but there is an element of bloodlust in it for certain....
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:10 am to AwgustaDawg
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Since 1973 around 8500 people have been sentenced to death in the US. Somewhere around 1600 have been executed. Around 200 individuals have been exonerated off the crime they were convicted of....not had sentences reduced, exonerated - cleared of the charges. Nearly 2.5% of those convicted to die were later proven innocent. That in and of itself is unacceptable to anyone lacking a taste for blood.
What is ur problem ? How dare you bring logic, facts and sanity into a thread like this……
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