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Prison-Industrial Complex and the War On Drugs

Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted by PokerPastime
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:08 pm
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Been reading a lot about how we got to this point as a nation. Found this article interesting/informative on how the Prison-Industrial Complex came to be and it’s relationship to the War-on-Drugs.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:20 pm to
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War-on-Drugs
The drugs won.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:33 pm to
It’s a goddamn racket is what it is. I remember working out in liberal-arse California a few years before weed was fully legalized. They were still incarcerating folks on possession just because they didn’t have the foresight to pay a doctor $200 for a RX. Talked to a PD for awhile, and she said it was just a money grab, pure and simple.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:35 pm to
Get high on personal responsibility and Jesus Christ.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:39 pm to
It is ridiculous and immoral. This is worth protesting.

Bad capitalism as well.

I just can't see how anyone ever thought for profit prisons was a good idea. They lobby for stricter laws or not repealing stupid drug laws, protecting their profit at the expense of the citizen. Corrupt!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:40 pm to
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she said it was just a money grab, pure and simple.


The fact that most places are cite and release although it’s still illegal pretty much proves this.

It’s illegal but treated like a speeding ticket. You just pay your way out of it.

Fully legalize or decriminalize it, and the easy revenue from writing a ticket goes away.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:42 pm to
I’m pretty sure the stat still stands but something like 60-70% of incarcerations are drug related.

Decriminalization alone would free up a ton of space in facilities. But then legislators would come up with some more bullshite laws to fill them all back up again.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:45 pm to
Jobs program to replace all those lost factory jobs.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:57 pm to
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I just can't see how anyone ever thought for profit prisons was a good idea.


Because many on the right think the answer to every single government problem, and half the things that aren't government problems, is "privatization".

And it's not just the for-profit prisons, plenty of parish and county sheriffs are on this gravy train as well.



Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:31 pm to
I was told privatization of the natural gas industry would result in much cheaper prices.

I think its called crony capitalism or some ish like that. No free market for sure (about the natural gas).

The state has no business farming out its prisons.

***I'll try to find some info on privatizing natural gas to see how it works out
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:39 pm to
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was told privatization of the natural gas industry would result in much cheaper prices.


Have you seen the prices of natural gas right now? It’s fricking dirt cheap
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:40 pm to
The war on drugs had and has nothing to do with ending drug use.

It now funds and empowers no shortage of small govt minded law and order politicians however.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:42 pm to
Louisiana is built on private prisons. The day we do away with them will be a huge turning point in this state. With that being said, we’ll be the last state holding on to them.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Decriminalization alone would free up a ton of space in facilities. But then legislators would come up with some more bullshite laws to fill them all back up again.


If you have 70% less people getting arrested, having trials, prisons, half way houses, court ordered rehab... And suddenly that whole industry of lawyers, judges, clerks,police, prisons, guards, govt workers are unemployed- yeah they might try to fight you on that.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:44 pm to
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And it's not just the for-profit prisons, plenty of parish and county sheriffs are on this gravy train as well.


Which parish and county sheriffs are private?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:09 pm to
A lot of parish sheriffs lease out cells of their jails and prisons to for-profit prison management companies.
Posted by Wrenchruh
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Which parish and county sheriffs are private?


While some do rent out space to private prisons, I was referring more to the fact that the over-incarceration in the state helps keep the local jails filled, which keeps the local sheriffs very happy. They love housing state DOJ criminals and getting that per diem.
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