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re: Price changes: Jan 2000 to June 2021 - Selected US goods and services, wages

Posted on 11/26/22 at 6:28 am to
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3439 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 6:28 am to
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It was not designed to lower cost. It was was to reduce how fast it went up. Imagine how much more expensive it would have been!


I see they are using the Global Warming/Climate Change method of explaining things for everything they do.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31799 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 6:30 am to
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Let us not forget Mary Landriue was the last vote to pass this dumpster fire.


She knew it was her parting shot and was ready to go into ‘consulting’, otherwise known as lobbying or bribery. This is per a family member of hers.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11569 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:00 am to
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They should be handed out for free or have to compensate the viewer through an agreed upon monthly contract.


TV’s have hit this low price due to manufacturing costs shrinking and patents expiring or sharing of technology.

What is crazy is that almost all TV’s are made in the same Chinese factories and just the label/branding is changed. Now TV’s will start to roll out with new TV tuners with the ATSC 3.0 standard, but right now few stations are utilizing the new standard and the new tuners are only available in mid to high end models. The new tuners will probably cost more due to licensing and patents for the newer codecs used.

Now what hasn’t gone down in the cost of owning a TV are subscription costs for cable, streaming services, etc.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 7:02 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60706 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:09 am to
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the price of a TV


The big lie

TV's have only gone down in cost as they spy on you more to mine your data. This should be made illegal but most TV's today do not have ways for the consumers to kill this "feature"

Big Brother is here.
Posted by 76Forest
Member since May 2011
135 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:14 am to
New cars haven’t gone up since 2000? I’m not a believer. New trucks are a lot more. Wonder why? What are they trying to spin? I’m a skeptic of most everything the government says.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60706 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:17 am to
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I’m a skeptic of most everything the government says.


Since the 1980 election I believe you are correct.

Government (both sides) have become more beholden to corporations that the actual citizens.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41451 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:19 am to
bullshite that wages went up 80%
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79245 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:25 am to
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he’s the only President who attempted to fix our shitty healthcare system.


Not true.

Nixon attempted universal health care and Ted Kennedy blocked it.

Clinton attempted it unsuccessfully, and ultimately settled for CHIP.

W created Medicare Part D.

Ogump let Wellpoint write his plan, so I'm not even going to consider that an attempt.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20700 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:27 am to
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I don’t see anyone coming up with the solution to the problem


and you're not going to see anyone come up with a solution. Healthcare is so politicized and polarized at this point that real solutions are impossible. You can't even broach the subject of medicare and Medicaid reform because you are immediately hit with accusations of wanting to kill granny. Both sides know that older voters show up to the polls more consistently that any other group because their biggest concerns are their healthcare and social security.
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
2081 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:31 am to
It was NEVER about fixing anything - it was ALWAYS about government control - and they knew there were enough low-IQ useful idiots to support it - you're welcome.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 7:33 am
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
948 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:32 am to
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Healthcare and college tuition are out of control.


Unsurprisingly the two things on the chart that the government has gotten involved in to “lower costs” for
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31812 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:49 am to
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I don’t want the government to take over healthcare, but something needs to be done in a major way to fix things.


I’ve said similar things. I’m extremely libertarian on most things and in no way want UHC or government intervention, but when you learn healthcare cost are a made up number by some a-hole in a hospital back room that they negotiated with some insurance a-hole in another back room, something is broken. You can show up with a piece of paper and they’ll say that x-Ray will be $50. You could show up with a different piece of paper and now it’s $1000.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41451 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:54 am to
There should be transparent pricing for healthcare. An X-Ray shouldn’t cost different prices for the same X-ray.

I understand complications with procedures and surgeries, but a routine visit and lad test should
Cost the exact same and it should
Be published prior to going to see them.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31812 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:55 am to
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Everyone loves to shite on Obama for that, but he’s the only President who attempted to fix our shitty healthcare system.


He is literally the one that sent costs skyrocketing.
Insurance and costs made a huge jump from 2009-2011.

I do agree that Obama gets unfairly dumped on for some things, but government taking over healthcare costs and student loans gave universities and hospitals a carte blanche to go hog wild.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8913 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:58 am to
I got to call BS on new cars
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31812 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:01 am to
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I understand complications with procedures and surgeries, but a routine visit and lad test should Cost the exact same and it should Be published prior to going to see them


I’ve shared this story before but a TLDR version is that my wife had 2 surgeries (1 per foot) in 2018. Took care of those and then one pin started coming out and protruding through the skin. Doc said come and get it out.

Wife goes in, signs nothing, he cuts, unscrews the pin, sews it back up, take an x-ray, all good and goes home. 15 minutes.

2 months later, $7k bill. I ask for a line item bill and they say no, pay us $7k for 15 minutes of time and an X-ray. I tell them to have a nice day and that’s that.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19186 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:05 am to

So, they've made everything rap artists talk about cheaper.

New car
New clothes
Cellphone service
TV's

What group has the worst money habits?



Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79245 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:07 am to
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2 months later, $7k bill. I ask for a line item bill and they say no, pay us $7k for 15 minutes of time and an X-ray. I tell them to have a nice day and that’s that.


Insurers are just as bad. I saw a case where Blue Cross said they would pay for a procedure and it didn't require auth, then they stiffed the provider.

At least the provider wrote it off so the patient didn't get stuck with a large bill.
Posted by Nathan Hail
Part of a Vast Network
Member since May 2022
676 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:09 am to
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I don’t want the government to take over healthcare


too late
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27121 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:09 am to
Everything the government has their hands in vs everything they don't
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