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re: Prepare to start having your things checked in at hotels.

Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:40 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:40 am to
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I see, but there was an 8 weapon rumor on Fox news.

Like I only own a glock 20. I don't own any LR so more or less im just trying to get educated on how you could breakdown 8 LR's (potentially) and make it look like normal carry in luggage?

I don't know shite about automatic/semi-automatic weapons but couldn't you fit 8 of those into 1 normal suitcase? Or even a larger duffle bag?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:41 am to
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Not constitutional amendments.

You can't change the Fourth Amendment with a Swing of a pen



You don't need a constitutional amendment to enact such a law.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:43 am to
But a law cannot override a constitutional right
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22642 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:46 am to
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No matter what phrase I use, people will start a debate over semantics as a means to shift the conversation. Use some common sense; yall know damn well what I mean.


Try using the term "clip".

The gun nuts lose their shite over that one too.
Posted by SmoothOperator96
TD Premium Member
Member since Jan 2016
4147 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:46 am to
I don’t think you understand what the black market is......
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:47 am to
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Wrong! 77% of NON-GUN OWNERS does not equate to "Most Americans".


If you look at the graph there's a section that says all adults which puts the % at 68.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:48 am to
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I imagine a hotel can have requirements along those lines as it's private property.


I imagine most hotel chains would want nothing to do with that kind of regulation. If you had a choice between Hotel A which made you open up all your bags and had some employee digging through your shite or Hotel B that did not which one would you choose?

Hotels don't want this, people don't want this... I don't see this happening.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25393 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:49 am to
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I think that a hotel has no legal right to search any private citizen.

There's a huge difference between the TSA and Holiday Inn.


It will happen when Congress creates the HLSA - the Hotel and Lodging Safety Administration. Holiday Inn won't be doing the searching. It will be the federal HLSA agents in front of the metal detectors in every hotel.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:52 am to
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BTW, good job on not actually answering anything and just going to the personal attacks.


What personal attacks have I made in this thread?

You've called me a fggt and a stupid fricking moron.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:53 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:54 am to
Sweet reading skills, I've acknowledged what I've called you. Would you like to still keep talking about this meaningless derail, or actually acknowledge what people have posted to you?
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26688 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:54 am to
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Define this for me

Its painted black and looks scary
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:54 am to
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Vegas also has laws against shooting people. Maybe they were recently enacted, and this guy juts hadn't gotten the memo yet.


This is a cop out.

There are laws against breaking and entering and theft. You still lock your doors, set alarms and possibly own a gun for home protection, right?
My point is that more can be done to help prevent this kind of stuff. I'm not trying to take anyone's guns. But this happens more here than anywhere else that I am aware of (mass shootings), so what do we do to prevent it?
Posted by cdaniel76
Ponchatoula
Member since Feb 2008
19783 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:55 am to
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If you look at the graph there's a section that says all adults which puts the % at 68.




So an unknown number of adults surveyed during a total of 28 days earlier this year represents "Most Americans"?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:56 am to
quote:

I imagine most hotel chains would want nothing to do with that kind of regulation. If you had a choice between Hotel A which made you open up all your bags and had some employee digging through your shite or Hotel B that did not which one would you choose?

Hotels don't want this, people don't want this... I don't see this happening.
The full quote of my post you quoted:

quote:

I'm not saying you should do it, but I imagine a hotel can have requirements along those lines as it's private property.



Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:56 am to
The NRA will make sure nothing changes.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:56 am to
quote:

This is a cop out.


How?

quote:

There are laws against breaking and entering and theft. You still lock your doors, set alarms and possibly own a gun for home protection, right?


DO you think you're helping your argument here?

quote:

My point is that more can be done to help prevent this kind of stuff.


Like further regulating law abiding citizens more when perpetrators of these crimes clearly aren't concerned with the law?


Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:56 am to
quote:

The NRA will make sure nothing changes.


Good.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:57 am to
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It will happen when Congress creates the HLSA - the Hotel and Lodging Safety Administration. Holiday Inn won't be doing the searching. It will be the federal HLSA agents in front of the metal detectors in every hotel.


Yep and they'll use the commerce clause to justify it. They used commerce clause to enforce CRA of 64 and SC set precedent in the Heart of Atlanta Motel case, though they limited use of commerce clause and gun control with the Lopez case.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:58 am to
So what do we do? Wait for the next 400+ people to get shot up with bullets?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72156 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:59 am to
I work in commercial insurance and provide risk management consulting services

in other words, I negotiate with insurance carriers on behalf of business owners/ organizations

I've no doubt some insurance carriers will begin requiring this

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