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re: Prepare to start having your things checked in at hotels.

Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:51 am to
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:51 am to
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If it isn't commonly used for hunting, then it is unnecessary.



So your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is that allowable weaponry is only those used for hunting? Goodbye pistols and revolvers...
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:52 am to
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No matter what phrase I use, people will start a debate over semantics as a means to shift the conversation. Use some common sense; yall know damn well what I mean. If it isn't commonly used for hunting, then it is unnecessary.

No, we start a debate over semantics so some overly broad bullshite like you just posted doesn't take away people's rights. An AR-15 is incredibly common for hunting hogs.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:52 am to
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how you could breakdown 8 LR's (potentially) and make it look like normal carry in luggage?



Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:53 am to
They would have to have a checkpoint at every entrance and exit, which there are several of at even the smallest hotels, and you would have to be checked every time you enter and exit, not just when you check in. This will never happen. Hotels would fight it tooth and nail.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:54 am to
I mean I get that, but if 8 is true how many could you theoretically fit in standard luggage?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:55 am to
You probably wouldn't even need to do that. The average AR is what... 40" or less? You could fit a few in an oversized bag.
Posted by labratz
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:56 am to
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Well it's private property and you can't use their private property unless you consent to their terms that has the full force of law behind it.


It is still a business. They are not going to search everyone for fear of lost revenue. How many people are going to avoid searches just so they do not have their sex toys seen? Or they do not want potentially stick fingered employees to take inventory of their jewelry in the room?
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 7:58 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:56 am to
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I mean I get that, but if 8 is true how many could you theoretically fit in standard luggage?



I have a large range bag that I sometimes use for travel. I've seen people use military seabags. You could fit 10 rifles and your clothes in one of those and it wouldn't look odd.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:57 am to
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They would have to have a checkpoint at every entrance and exit, which there are several of at even the smallest hotels, and you would have to be checked every time you enter and exit, not just when you check in. This will never happen. Hotels would fight it tooth and nail.


I know there are one way entry doors. You could still funnel people coming in through the main entry while allowing folks to leave through multiple.

Metal Detectors would have to be installed at the exits still though for people holding doors open for others.

I do however agree with you that hotels would fight this. However, there is also a possibility they would lay down, because who wants to be known as the company who supports mass murder (being hyperbolic, but this is how it would be framed).
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:58 am to
Thanks terd. I learned something new this morning .
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:58 am to
A hotel I stayed at in Istanbul had airport style security at the front door.

There's a difference between setting up security and if it will actually stop a shooter. So I think the arguments that it "won't work" are immaterial. This is feel good legislation. We have tons of those.

As for Congress, I bet you see the Commerce Clause as the basis.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 7:59 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:58 am to
Perhaps for larger resorts that overlook a festival or fairground or attraction. But the cost of putting in metal detectors or airport scanners at a Red Roof in in Denton, TX?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:59 am to
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I know there are one way entry doors. You could still funnel people coming in through the main entry while allowing folks to leave through multiple.

Metal Detectors would have to be installed at the exits still though for people holding doors open for others.


If the hotel has balconies all you'd have to do is haul them up that way. There's no way to make a hotel secure enough to cover all possible entry points without spending a ton of money.

It's not going to happen.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:59 am to
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I love people who get their talking points from CNN.




I'm too stupid to come to conclusions on my own. And I'm barely literate so I can't possibly do any research. So whatever the people say on the CNN or MSNBC that's what I parrot. Same goes for the majority of Americans who believe the same as me.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:00 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:59 am to
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It is still a business. They are not going to search everyone for fear of lost revenue. How many people are going to avoid searches just so they do not have their sex toys seen? Or they do not want potentially stick fingered employees to take inventory of their jewelry in the room?


If its federal law, they don't have a choice.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:00 am to
Not a chance in hell.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:00 am to
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I'm too stupid to come to conclusions on my own. And I'm barely literate so I can't possibly do any research. So whatever the people say on the CNN or MSNBC that's what I parrot. Same goes for the majority of Americans who believe the same as me.


I know. I could tell as soon as you said "military style weapon".
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:00 am to
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If the hotel has balconies all you'd have to do is haul them up that way. There's no way to make a hotel secure enough to cover all possible entry points without spending a ton of money.


I agree. I am more or less suggesting it be such a pain in the arse that sick fricks don't see it as an opportunity.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:02 am to
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Perhaps for larger resorts that overlook a festival or fairground or attraction. But the cost of putting in metal detectors or airport scanners at a Red Roof in in Denton, TX?


I would definitely say if something of the sort came to fruition, the larger resorts that have facing walls at a major public gathering space will be hit with this.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68214 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:04 am to
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Define this for me


Any weapon with a “clip” - they would prefer Americans to only have double barreled shotguns and muskets
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