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re: Pony car enthusiasts of the OT
Posted on 10/6/20 at 2:52 pm to Tiny Rick
Posted on 10/6/20 at 2:52 pm to Tiny Rick
quote:That's the plan, and I already know, for those bringing it up, that the 3V is nowhere near the performance of the 5.0L Coyote. The kid will be 15 years old. I'm not getting him a GT500 or Bullitt.
Visit a trusted mechanic or mechanic shop and ask for them to one over the vehicle. Have seller meet you at the shop for a neutral location as well. If you were closer to NOLA I’d send you exactly where to go as a buddy of mine has done this for many people at his location.
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 2:57 pm to HubbaBubba
My 3V concerns are less performance based and more breaking spark plugs off in the head based.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 2:59 pm to BuddyRoeaux
quote:
Go big or go home.
quote:
Fox body
EL OH EL
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:09 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
and I already know, for those bringing it up, that the 3V is nowhere near the performance of the 5.0L Coyote
It's more to do with it being a garbage motor relative to the alternatives.
Also, a Shelby GT and Bullitt are no faster than a standard GT from those years
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:22 pm to HubbaBubba
You've probably already found these, but there's a few useful forums online that have been helpful to me over the years:
stangnet.com
corral.net
mustangforums.com
I'm not knowledgeable on the "S197" model, but I know several people that race them on road tracks (VIR, Summit Point, etc.). Why do they do this? Because, just like you said they are cheap and there's lots of mods you can do yourself to go fast (and turn fast) cheaper than just about any car out there (except maybe a Miata for turning).
The newest one I had was an 03 Terminator, not a car for a young driver. I do still have the car I had in high school - 66 Fastback w V8, built for speed. Like your son, i saved for my car - it makes a difference. Hopefully he'll understand the responsibility that comes with a fast car and keep it between the ditches.
stangnet.com
corral.net
mustangforums.com
I'm not knowledgeable on the "S197" model, but I know several people that race them on road tracks (VIR, Summit Point, etc.). Why do they do this? Because, just like you said they are cheap and there's lots of mods you can do yourself to go fast (and turn fast) cheaper than just about any car out there (except maybe a Miata for turning).
The newest one I had was an 03 Terminator, not a car for a young driver. I do still have the car I had in high school - 66 Fastback w V8, built for speed. Like your son, i saved for my car - it makes a difference. Hopefully he'll understand the responsibility that comes with a fast car and keep it between the ditches.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:25 pm to LNCHBOX
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Because they look better, don't have the dumb 3v and offer better options for trim levels IMO.
Yeah, I didn't like the 2005 redesign at all. Only thing I remember disliking about the 1999-2004s was that the stock GT was pretty close to its power ceiling, and the 5.0L crowd wasn't too thrilled about that. Still a decently fast car with the 5-speed.
I also think the Mustang has strayed from its roots lately. It's definitely not the cheapest way to go fast anymore.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:28 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
I want to purchase a Mustang
If you don't still listen to Limp Bizkit or haven't hit at least 3 pedestrians so far, you won't fit in with the Mustang crowd.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:29 pm to HubbaBubba
Heavy, and low power. Pass. Step up to 2012, or newer, and get a Coyote.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:35 pm to USMEagles
quote:
I also think the Mustang has strayed from its roots lately. It's definitely not the cheapest way to go fast anymore.
Cars just cost a lot these days
$35k base for 2020 Mustang GT is steep relative to what it used to be, but that's a low 12 second car from the factory that can turn decent and has lots of standard features.
A base 2001 Gt for example was $23k, and obviously is nowhere near the car the new one is. Adjusting for inflation, the new car s only $2k more but offers a lot more for your money.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:39 pm to HubbaBubba
I know this is the OT and all but you are out of your damn mind to turn a new driver kid loose in a Mustang GT. He will put that thing in a ditch, and hopefully not hurt himself, inside a month. BTW, I would check insurance before you do anything else.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:42 pm to HubbaBubba
Bought my daughter a 01 Got with a shade over 70k miles. She’s 16 in November. We bought it in May and since then she’s helped put on a cold air intake, upgrade headlights, change all pads/rotors and a bunch of other small upgrades. It’s been fun for me and a learning experience for her. I’ve been using allfordmustangs.com for suggestions/recommendations. Don’t know if that’s the best site but it’s helped us.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:43 pm to jbgleason
quote:
know this is the OT and all but you are out of your damn mind to turn a new driver kid loose in a Mustang GT. He will put that thing in a ditch, and hopefully not hurt himself, inside a month. BTW, I would check insurance before you do anything else.
The 3v 4.6 mustang GT’s he’s looking at have less power than a v6 Dodge Charger:challenger and even less power than the newer Honda accords.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:47 pm to HubbaBubba
It's best to find a Mustang forum and check things out there.
I'd avoid technical posts that contain I heard that... or I know someone who...
Best to rely on hands-on accounts, but the info in enthusiast sites is good and will prove helpful later, if you do some of your own work.
I'd avoid technical posts that contain I heard that... or I know someone who...
Best to rely on hands-on accounts, but the info in enthusiast sites is good and will prove helpful later, if you do some of your own work.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:49 pm to jbgleason
I get what everyone, well a few, are saying. I do. This is not for me. It's for a kid to have and see if he develops an enthusiasm for a performance car and what you have to do to maintain it. That's all. I also have to be cognizant of the hit on my insurance. It can't be too high of a performance car or too new. The costs of insurance will make it not work out, economically for him and raise my premium quite a bit higher on all my other vehicles than it already is with another kid on the policy already.
I appreciate the advice, but really, just looking for a definitive book on Mustang and thought there might be an enthusiast here with a suggested recommendation from personal experience.
I appreciate the advice, but really, just looking for a definitive book on Mustang and thought there might be an enthusiast here with a suggested recommendation from personal experience.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 4:09 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
I want to purchase a Mustang, and I sort of have myself looking at the 2008 GT Deluxe and GT Premium.
I had a 2008 GT CS, lost it in the flood. Mustangs don't float.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 4:12 pm to Bard
I'll keep that in mind
Posted on 10/6/20 at 4:30 pm to HubbaBubba
I don't know of any books that would have it compiled quite like what you're looking for, but an experienced mechanic should be able to share some of that information with you. They know which model years are trouble and end up in the shop often with the same problems. They'll also be able to tell you if the problem is a one-time fix or recurring. Just so happens that my dad is a mechanic and chose to put my kid sister in the 2014 Mustang V6 and it's been a great car for her.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 4:44 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
I want this to be my son's first car. He's 14
Why don’t you just give him a bunch of explosives and some matches for his birthday?
Posted on 10/6/20 at 4:46 pm to chinhoyang
quote:Rust bucket, plain and simple. Will be a pain to fix when the kid eventually wrecks it. And all the money you put in will not change the value one bit.
1966 Mustang
However, it is a super fun dad-son project car. It'll teach him alot about mechanics, overcoming the fear of starting projects, and will make great memories out in the garage.
My main concern.... his safety.
Most people don't have any consideration for cars that don't operate at 100% reliability. They've never been around anything but modern cars. Tailgaters everywhere, and they don't slow down for cars that stall turning across intersections. It's just not a thing anymore with all the automatics. With a young driver, i'd worry about intersection stalls.
Plus, it's easy to steal.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 9:35 pm to HubbaBubba
Man with the amount of dumb shite we did as 16/17yo, I'm buying my kid a beat up Volvo with one wheel missing and a few misfires. That sombitch will be itching to drive a golf cart. I cannot believe me and a few buddies didn't kill ourselves twice over.
No joke man, let him drive a pusher for a year or so.
No joke man, let him drive a pusher for a year or so.
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