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Pittsburgh officer charged with criminal homicide in shooting of Antwon Rose

Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:29 am
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:29 am
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The East Pittsburgh Police officer who fatally shot 17-year-old Antwon Rose Jr. on June 19 has been charged with criminal homicide. According to court records, East Pittsburgh Police Officer Michael Rosfeld was formally charged Wednesday morning.

In a criminal complaint filed in the case, detectives cite witnesses who said Rose clearly had nothing in his hands when he was shot, contradicting what Rosfeld initially told investigators.

Rosfeld was conducting a traffic stop of the vehicle Rose was riding in, which police said fit the description of one used in a drive-by shooting that night. He told investigators he had ordered the driver out of the car, and down on the ground, when Rose got out of the vehicle.

According to Allegheny County District Attorney Stephen Zappala, Jr., Rose can be seen on witness video showing his hands before fleeing. No weapon was found on his person.

Rosfeld first told investigators that Rose "turned his hand toward" Rosfeld, who "saw something dark that he perceived as a gun," detectives wrote in the complaint. But when asked to repeat his version of events, Rosfeld's story changed, detectives wrote.

"During that rendition, Rosfeld told the detectives that he did not see a gun when the passenger emerged and ran. When confronted with this inconsistency, Rosfeld stated he saw something in the passenger's hand but was not sure what it was," detectives wrote in the complaint. "In addition, Officer Rosfeld stated that he was not certain if the individual who had his arm pointed at him was still pointing at him when he fired the shots."


Video of shooting
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:29 am to
Good
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:30 am to
Well...yeah
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:30 am to
I hate when they use the word “homicide” when the police have to use force to apprehend a criminal. It has such bad connotations
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:31 am to
Looks clear cut to me, but this guy will have his day in court.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:34 am to
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Looks clear cut to me, but this guy will have his day in court.



Incredibly difficult to convict a cop, and I doubt this DOJ will be coming in with federal civil rights charges like Obama's DOJ has done in the past.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by 0
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:36 am to
I get that adrenaline takes over and people react on impulse rather than common sense but why not just aim for the legs if you’re not 100% sure the guy is armed.
Posted by SpanishFortTiger
Spanish Fort, Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:36 am to
I do not envy being that police officer
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:36 am to
Well...that's a short-lived police career
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 11:38 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:37 am to
That looks pretty bad.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:37 am to
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Incredibly difficult to convict a cop, and I doubt this DOJ will be coming in with federal civil rights charges like Obama's DOJ has done in the past.

Charging anyone with a hate crime bothers me. Protected classes are bullshite. This is coming from a brown dude.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45540 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:37 am to
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Rosfeld had only been on duty in East Pittsburgh for three weeks, and he was formally sworn in about 90 minutes before the fatal shooting.


He should get a mulligan or something.
Posted by BillBrosky
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:38 am to
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I hate when they use the word “homicide” when the police have to use force


And what would you expect the coroner to put on the DC?
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:39 am to
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I get that adrenaline takes over and people react on impulse rather than common sense but why not just aim for the legs if you’re not 100% sure the guy is armed.

Because you can still easily kill people by hitting them in the thigh. Never take a shot on the leg. Either you feel good enough and justified to take the shot, or you don't take it at all. He shouldn't have taken the shot imo. Let K9 or someone get him. I think he lost his cool.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:40 am to
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Charging anyone with a hate crime bothers me. Protected classes are bullshite. This is coming from a brown dude.



I agree.

Except for the brown dude part.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:40 am to
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I get that adrenaline takes over and people react on impulse rather than common sense but why not just aim for the legs if you’re not 100% sure the guy is armed.
Cause if it warrants you using deadly force...
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:41 am to
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Looks clear cut to me, but this guy will have his day in court.


This is exactly what is wrong with this "I gotcha" society.

3 seconds of a shaky cell phone video and it looks clear cut to me.




Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:41 am to
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And what would you expect the coroner to put on the DC?



lead poisoning?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:42 am to
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I hate when they use the word “homicide” when the police have to use force to apprehend a criminal. It has such bad connotations


Yeah, they should really just call it what it is, an execution.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32377 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:43 am to
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Looks clear cut to me, but this guy will have his day in court.


Not taking up for the cop (I don't remember this story), but imagine if he let the guy run away and the dude killed a mom and her 2 kids down the street while carjacking them.

You really never know. But you can't kill people over what ifs.

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