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Physicists Sabine Hosselfelder is super pissed about the phrase “follow the science”.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:14 am
This video is 4 months old and SIAP but I doubt it was posted. I watch a lot of physics and math YT videos and just came across this video. For the folks that use the phrase “follow the science”, you need to watch this so you understand how dumb you really sound:
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This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:20 am to GumboPot
Thanks!! Haven't seen this one - I have watched some of her videos in the past. She does good work.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:21 am to GumboPot
It grates me as much as “the science is settled”
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:24 am to GumboPot
Anyone saying trust the science/follow the science seriously doesn’t actually want to trust or follow science. They want you to shut up and agree with them and they are trying to shame you/embarrass you into doing it.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:44 am to GumboPot
That’s a phrase, not a term.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:47 am to GumboPot
Thread title too. Thanks in advance.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:49 am to GumboPot
follow the science:
Pluto was a planet a few years ago
Pluto was a planet a few years ago
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:50 am to GumboPot
She seems to be half right.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:59 am to Meauxjeaux
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She seems to be half right.
I don't necessarily agree with her conclusions about climate change. She is just parroting the conclusions of the IPCC. The problem with the IPCC is they have manipulated the climate data to fit their conclusions. Specifically they have lowered the temperature data in the 1920-1940s. The mid 1930s were the hottest periods recorded. They lowered that data.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:02 am to GumboPot
I’m a white Male so I made the talk. Proud of that I suppose.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:04 am to Meauxjeaux
Progs love certain terms.
"Follow the science"
"Read a book"
"Get an education"
They love these phrases because they are vapid and can't discuss an issue on it's own merits.
"Follow the science"
"Read a book"
"Get an education"
They love these phrases because they are vapid and can't discuss an issue on it's own merits.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Progs love certain terms.
"Follow the science"
"Read a book"
"Get an education"
They love these phrases because they are vapid and can't discuss an issue on it's own merits.
The key difference between a prog and a true liberal is the following:
Prog: "follow the science". Shut up and do what you are told.
True liberal: "this is the reason you are wrong... but it's a free country and you can do what you want".
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:19 am to GumboPot
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True liberal: "this is the reason you are wrong... but it's a free country and you can do what you want".
Sounds like my definition of conservative too.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:43 pm to X123F45
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Sounds like my definition of conservative too.
Right. Liberals and conservatives just have different opinions. Progs are simply authoritarian.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:28 pm to GumboPot
I stated this in the imperial college thread that the dumbasses saying trust the science were just putting trust in bad forecast models
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:30 pm to GumboPot
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Science does not say, "You shouldn't pee on high-voltage lines", it says, "Urine is an excellent conductor".
Posted on 4/24/21 at 2:23 pm to GumboPot
Sabine is right. She is also onto the particle physicist schictk too. Sabine is hot.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 5:02 pm to GumboPot
I agree with her overall point on follow the science especially given that I am in the field, but I do disagree with here using some idiotic metaphors and analogies to say why non-supporters reason their thinking.
Climate change data is some of the worst quality science you will ever see and that is the fundamental problems. As another poster said, some data is manipulated and others (the bulk of it) are entirely made up based on the assumptions of the “scientist” running/creating it or the model.
When you only have data for the last 100 years and can’t draw conclusions from it, you create model data. Problem is trying to extrapolate from 100 years of data put to thousands of years is entirely non-scientific. We are not supposed to extrapolate in science.
That leads to matters of opinion dictating what are called facts.
Worst part of this all is that we can see some of the issues that can arise, but instead of focusing on those, they go all doomsday and try to go to extremes. If you offer people alternatives that are cost equivalent or cheaper, they will do it. If you are asking them to pay way more for something based on invalidated claims or hypotheses, of course they are going to be resistant. You aren’t asking for small changes. Instead you are asking life altering changes at a significant cost with little guarantee it will even do anything.
That is politics and propaganda, not science.
Climate change data is some of the worst quality science you will ever see and that is the fundamental problems. As another poster said, some data is manipulated and others (the bulk of it) are entirely made up based on the assumptions of the “scientist” running/creating it or the model.
When you only have data for the last 100 years and can’t draw conclusions from it, you create model data. Problem is trying to extrapolate from 100 years of data put to thousands of years is entirely non-scientific. We are not supposed to extrapolate in science.
That leads to matters of opinion dictating what are called facts.
Worst part of this all is that we can see some of the issues that can arise, but instead of focusing on those, they go all doomsday and try to go to extremes. If you offer people alternatives that are cost equivalent or cheaper, they will do it. If you are asking them to pay way more for something based on invalidated claims or hypotheses, of course they are going to be resistant. You aren’t asking for small changes. Instead you are asking life altering changes at a significant cost with little guarantee it will even do anything.
That is politics and propaganda, not science.
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