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re: Photo of principal, teachers posing with noose in leaked photo incites outrage

Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:01 pm to
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No please explain how a noose in itself is racist. Please

Aren't you 30 something years old and from south Louisiana. If I have to explain to you the connection between blacks and lynchings in America at this point in your life. With that being said if you are actually interested in the topic I would start here LINK
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:04 pm to
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We've already lost the battle flag and blackface. Now nooses are considered racist??? This is a step too far.
I know. It’s just too much!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43662 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:05 pm to
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If I have to explain to you the connection between blacks and lynchings


So what?

A noose isn't racist. It's a thing.

Do you not grasp what context means?

ETA: Slaves were forced to pick cotton. So using your logic, we should stop wearing cotton clothing or using cotton products?

God forbid you have a picture of a noose made with cotton rope.

That's double-plus ungood!

This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9975 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:06 pm to
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A noose isn't racist. It's a thing.

Do you not grasp what context means?


What if instead of a noose, they took a picture by a burning cross? Would you need to know the context to criticize them as being stupid at best?
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21770 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Which is why using the possession of inanimate objects to decide if someone is racist is fricking stupid.



Not really. I don't get to decide what has horrific symbolism to others. I judge people who wave nazi flags. I'm ok with people judging others for brandishing nooses. I'd hope that they'd have accepted my apology and excuse, if I had been called on it. But, it's not up to me to decide what a noose should mean to a black person.
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:08 pm to
Too fat and ugly to bang students.

So finding another way to getting shite canned.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43662 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:08 pm to
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What if instead of a noose, they took a picture by a burning cross?


So no, you don't grasp what context means.

Check.



Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:09 pm to
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: Slaves were forced to pick cotton. So using your logic, we should stop wearing cotton clothing or using cotton products?

Didn't a school in Virginia get in trouble this year for taking a group of elementary kids to a cotton field and having the kids pick cotton?

quote:

God forbid you have a picture of a noose made with cotton rope.

If that floats your boat. Go for it man.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11387 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:09 pm to
13 = 50
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9975 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:11 pm to
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So no, you don't grasp what context means.

Check.



A burning cross is an inanimate object which some people believe in as a symbol that Jesus is alive and will burn away all evil. It was used in midieval europe for non-racial purposes long before it was brought to the South.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43662 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:14 pm to
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A burning cross is an inanimate object which some people believe in as a symbol that Jesus is alive and will burn away all evil. It was used in midieval europe for non-racial purposes long before it was brought to the South.


And if the teacher was holding up the image as part of a history lesson of the above, or even discussing how it's use was co-opted by the KKK, that would be a fireable offense?
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9975 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:16 pm to
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And if the teacher was holding up the image as part of a history lesson of the above, or even discussing how it's use was co-opted by the KKK, that would be a fireable offense?


So an image circulating of teachers standing next to a burning cross and smiling would not be a fireable offense if they didn't intend for it to be racist?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19878 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:16 pm to
It's dumb that this is an issue. But, I cant get really upset about their consequences. They should know that, in this social climate today, they would probably lose their jobs over this. Not a good idea to post on social media with a fricking noose and think people wont give a shite.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:17 pm to
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Photo of principal, teachers posing with noose in leaked photo incites outrage


Outrage will soon ensue when the game hangman is played for spelling studies...

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:18 pm to
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in this social climate today,


This is the problem.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43662 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:24 pm to
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So an image circulating of teachers standing next to a burning cross and smiling would not be a fireable offense if they didn't intend for it to be racist?


Do you know the context of why they were doing so?

Do you know the context of why the teachers in this article had the noose?

Until you do, it's reactionary bullshite.

Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4472 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Why is it possible? What evidence is there of it being racial?


Either situation is possible.

Judging by taking happy, smiling pictures with a noose and displaying it in a sort of haphazard way I assume they find humor in it.

If this was something related to a lesson about the history of hanging in our country I would expect it to be treated in a more serious way.

This definitely isn't a teaching situation and it leads me to believe that they are making light of either hanging as a whole or of how nooses are sometimes branded as racist in today's culture.

I don't know which they were doing but either is very possible.

Both of those possibilities show very poor judgement and then passing the photos around make me question their position teaching children.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9975 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Do you know the context of why they were doing so?

Do you know the context of why the teachers in this article had the noose?

Until you do, it's reactionary bullshite.




Does context matter if they are standing next to a burning cross smiling and sharing it on social media?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43662 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Not a good idea to post on social media with a fricking noose and think people wont give a shite.




And it's sad that it has come to this fact in our country, and that it can get you fired.



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43662 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Does context matter if they are standing next to a burning cross smiling and sharing it on social media?



Yes. Next question.

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