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re: Personal injury fraud ring is hitting the news.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:58 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:58 pm to boosiebadazz
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So you never advise to waive?
i don't advise. i inform of the coverage and their options.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:00 pm to Chad504boy
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i don't advise. i inform of the coverage and their options.
Of course. Mr. E&O posts here.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
Damn say it ain’t so big Jim Courtney was a lsu football player.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:02 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Yep, most people advise higher than 15/30/25, but that doesn't stop people from choosing it.
i don't advise. i inform of the coverage and their options.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:06 pm to TheCurmudgeon
After a quick google it looks like there is an average of 51 wrecks per day in baton rouge alone. It looks like they have some job safety.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:06 pm to Boomshockalocka
This story will get big
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:06 pm to Chad504boy
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insurance companies provide a full written policy of their coverages. Usually not much to hate a company for besides your own ignorance.
There are plenty of reasons not to like insurance companies. I've seen a number of issues deriving from things such as the insurance company's estimate not matching the auto body shop's estimate. If they can't resolve the issue, then that ultimately falls onto the insured. I've seen this exact situation play out not even a month ago.
However, Louisiana ranks 17th in auto accidents per capita in the US, yet has the 2nd highest auto rates in the country. Louisiana is also ranked in the top 5 in terms of safest work environments in the US, yet our work comp rates are 3rd highest in the US. That is not on the insurance companies
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:09 pm to oreeg
Has anyone elaborated on what tort reform they would like to see?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:11 pm to boosiebadazz
You people are so naive.
Every 18 wheeler or commercial vehicle on the road has at least a million dollars in liability coverage. If a greedy, unscrupulous plaintiff lawyer gets that case, there is NO WAY he is letting it go for soft tissue money. There is NO WAY he is settling it before filing suit. (Contingency goes up from 33% to 40% once suit is filed.)
You have to "work it up." You send him to the shake and bake doctor for a few months. No better? Well let's get some MRI's. Considering the fact that most adults over the age of 25 have some sort of disc pathology anyway, they will find a herniation or a bulge of something, which the plaintiff-friendly doctor will causally attribute to the accident.
Now it's time to start the money train rolling. Let's get some facet injections, maybe epidurals, maybe a more invasive diagnostic test like a discogram. And here comes the inevitable surgical recommendation. This man needs a fusion!
And when an attorney tells a client, "Hey, if you get the surgery, the value of your case triples," most will jump at the deal. "I just settled a neck surgery case for $750,000! Do you have any lost wages? We can send you to a voc rehab expert, and get the total value of the claim up over a million."
This is the ORDINARY COURSE OF THINGS. I see it every fricking day. I have at least 40 pending cases where that exact same scenario has played out.
No, it's not the insurance companies' fault. If you think that, you are are on team plaintiff, or you are a fricking idiot.
Every 18 wheeler or commercial vehicle on the road has at least a million dollars in liability coverage. If a greedy, unscrupulous plaintiff lawyer gets that case, there is NO WAY he is letting it go for soft tissue money. There is NO WAY he is settling it before filing suit. (Contingency goes up from 33% to 40% once suit is filed.)
You have to "work it up." You send him to the shake and bake doctor for a few months. No better? Well let's get some MRI's. Considering the fact that most adults over the age of 25 have some sort of disc pathology anyway, they will find a herniation or a bulge of something, which the plaintiff-friendly doctor will causally attribute to the accident.
Now it's time to start the money train rolling. Let's get some facet injections, maybe epidurals, maybe a more invasive diagnostic test like a discogram. And here comes the inevitable surgical recommendation. This man needs a fusion!
And when an attorney tells a client, "Hey, if you get the surgery, the value of your case triples," most will jump at the deal. "I just settled a neck surgery case for $750,000! Do you have any lost wages? We can send you to a voc rehab expert, and get the total value of the claim up over a million."
This is the ORDINARY COURSE OF THINGS. I see it every fricking day. I have at least 40 pending cases where that exact same scenario has played out.
No, it's not the insurance companies' fault. If you think that, you are are on team plaintiff, or you are a fricking idiot.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:14 pm to Slippy
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You people are so naive
That shite happens no doubt but I happen to know an attorney whose client got in a wreck with an 18-wheeler and she sent the client for an MRI, which was normal. She settled the case for a minimal amount. More often than not, you have a great damages case with little insurance, or a crap damages case with millions in coverage. That's why not every damn plaintiff attorney is OT wealthy.
Stop with the generalizations.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:17 pm to Demshoes
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Ask this question if god forbid a friend or family member is ever injured in an accident. See which side you come down on.
Nobody complains about the serious injuries. That's not what billboards, radio ads, and all the other forms of absurd advertisement is even for. Those people all lawyer up or have insurance companies involved.
I don't know what or where the proper medium is, but there's absolutely no way that our Tort system should be at the extent it is with driving down the highway and seeing a Lawyer billboard every couple hundred yards while hearing a commercial on the radio. Its ridiculous, if they can afford all of that advertisement then its way over the line of being too liberal on payments.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:18 pm to Demshoes
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Stop with the generalizations.
I see what you are saying but it only takes a small percentage of very large claims to create the environment we have now. The vast majority commercial vehicles on the road have millions in insurance coverage with GL and Umbrella limits.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:18 pm to NIH
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How would you curb that?
I'm at a loss to answer this. And yes, I'm a bit of a hypocrite since I do this for a living and these guys put food on my table.
Thankfully I am close enough to retirement (12 years max) that it's not going to be my problem forever. But I'm happy to see the defense bar finally fighting back and outing these creeps.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:19 pm to Slippy
Insurance companies need to be better at investigating every claim and people need to be held more responsible for frivolous claims.
Insurance companies ger lazy and just decide to settle when they dint feel like fighting it......that's bullshite.
If its a legit injury I dont have a problem with them paying the claim......but stop with the frivolous payouts already
Insurance companies ger lazy and just decide to settle when they dint feel like fighting it......that's bullshite.
If its a legit injury I dont have a problem with them paying the claim......but stop with the frivolous payouts already
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:23 pm to Slippy
The whole system if completely fricked. My little sister had some trash bag in a beater back into her at a stoplight. Their car was all fricked up before, and didn't have any damage where they backed into my sister. Her car didn't have any damage either, so nobody got a ticket.
They drove two blocks down to a sketchy lawyer's office in a strip mall. After that, they went to another sketchy doctor in another strip mall. They filed suit the next day claiming all three in the car had debilitating whiplash, bruised internals, and one got a broken arm (it was in a cast when they backed into my sister).
The sketchy lawyer then found out the max that my sister's insurance would pay out, and sued for that exact amount. GEICO had records of two of these people suing them four times before, but didn't care. The lawyer was just there to get a paycheck. One guy OD'd (good riddance), and GEICO paid the other two without question.
This is how some people make a living. They go around suing people, win, burn through the money, and then sue someone else. The insurance companies don't care, because they then get to charge policy holders more to get insurance
They drove two blocks down to a sketchy lawyer's office in a strip mall. After that, they went to another sketchy doctor in another strip mall. They filed suit the next day claiming all three in the car had debilitating whiplash, bruised internals, and one got a broken arm (it was in a cast when they backed into my sister).
The sketchy lawyer then found out the max that my sister's insurance would pay out, and sued for that exact amount. GEICO had records of two of these people suing them four times before, but didn't care. The lawyer was just there to get a paycheck. One guy OD'd (good riddance), and GEICO paid the other two without question.
This is how some people make a living. They go around suing people, win, burn through the money, and then sue someone else. The insurance companies don't care, because they then get to charge policy holders more to get insurance
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:24 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:The problem is that it would cost the insurance companies more to investigate and fight frivolous cases than to just pay out a few grand to settle it. But its short sighted on their part because by doing that, it just encourages more frivolous claims. If they fought back against the frivolous injury claims and win those cases, they'd deter future cases like that.
Insurance companies need to be better at investigating every claim and people need to be held more responsible for frivolous claims.
Insurance companies ger lazy and just decide to settle when they dint feel like fighting it......that's bullshite.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:24 pm to Slippy
Everyone games the existing system. Hell, billing abuse is why insurance companies started opening up in house shops all over the place.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:25 pm to stevengtiger
These dudes right here
He is the worst

He is the worst

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