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re: Per CDC: Fully vaccinated people don’t need to quarantine even after covid exposure
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:58 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:58 am to WaWaWeeWa
Why do I need a mask even walking by someone in a store for a few seconds?? Isn’t cdc guideline to be contact traced if you were around someone for 15 minutes or less than 6 feet? At places where I shop and the time of day I shop I’m often the only one down an aisle and when someone is near, it’s for a minute or two not even close to 15.
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:01 am to Epic Cajun
Idk where in VP you go to church but where I go there are plenty without masks at the Sunday afternoon mass. And the “local grocery” doesn’t have all customers with a mask either.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:02 am to Upperdecker
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Of course they don’t. They can’t spread it. It’s common sense
That’s not true. Full vaccination reduces the odds of getting China virus; it does not eliminate it. The effectiveness is supposedly 94%. This means that for every 100 people, in the control group, who contracted China Virus 6 in the vaccination group contracted it.
For people who are very vulnerable the vaccination should not make them let down their guard much until mass vaccination reduces the reproductive factor and the virus disappears.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:03 am to Fun Bunch
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Lie.
Literally impossible in virtually every area of the nation.
Dude.
Step out of NOLA.
Once you get out of the cities, no one is wearing masks. And that isn't OT hyperbole.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:06 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:05 am to tiger91
quote:I live in Lafayette, so I go to church here and shop here. People in church and in stores here wear masks (typically).
Idk where in VP you go to church but where I go there are plenty without masks at the Sunday afternoon mass. And the “local grocery” doesn’t have all customers with a mask either.
I know about the places in VP because I have family there and usually go about once a week.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:07 am to OweO
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Where did you go to medical school?
Would you drop a glass onto concrete? Why not? Where did you get your physics PhD?
One need not have an MD to understand the statistics behind the China Virus. The vaccination reduces ones odds of catching china virus by 94%; contracting china virus reduces the odds by much more than 99%. Those are statistics that are plainly comprehensible to you, right?
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:07 am to Salmon
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Once you get out of the cities, no one is wearing masks. And that isn't OT hyperbole.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:08 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:10 am to tiger91
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Idk where in VP you go to church but where I go there are plenty without masks at the Sunday afternoon mass. And the “local grocery” doesn’t have all customers with a mask either.
Yea over the last 2-4 weeks I've seen mask use decrease dramatically around here....people are tired of it.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:16 am to X123F45
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know a couple folks who’ve had it twice.
Unless all of your friends are HIV positive or doing chemo, that is statistically impossible
First: Scientists have run tests including thousands of participants that showed 0.0 people contracted it twice within 9 months (the longest period they could test for at that time). This does not mean it’s impossible to catch it twice, just highly improbable.
So, did that poster actually know two people who caught it twice? Well, it’s not impossible, but NO! He did not.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:37 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:25 am to Penrod
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For people who are very vulnerable the vaccination should not make them let down their guard much until mass vaccination reduces the reproductive factor and the virus disappears.
Terrible advice. This virus isn’t going away. The most protection you will ever get is the vaccine. Once you have it go live your life.
Stop moving the goal posts....
Don’t overwhelm hospitals
Slow the spread until a vaccine
Eliminate the virus
Locking up old people until the day when you think this virus will go away is insane and borderline criminal
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:30 am to lsupride87
So are they saying people that have covid and are asymptomatic can't spread the virus?
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:32 am to Penrod
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The vaccination reduces ones odds of catching china virus by 94%; contracting china virus reduces the odds by much more than 99%. Those are statistics that are plainly comprehensible to you, right?
You still don’t get it.
When did our metric become “catching covid”? Why does it matter if someone catches covid if they don’t get seriously sick or die?
If I told you that you “caught covid” a month ago and didn’t know would you care? You keep wondering why no one cares about your statistics. It’s because you are asking the wrong question.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:40 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Terrible advice. This virus isn’t going away. The most protection you will ever get is the vaccine. Once you have it go live your life.
You are a poster I respect and who is almost always correct. In this case you are making an egregious error.
Folks who are vulnerable should get vaccinated, keep up their guard, and wait for the virus to recede. In six months there will be almost no one in America with this virus. THAT is is when the highly vulnerable can feel very safe.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:42 am to WaWaWeeWa
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You still don’t get it.
When did our metric become “catching covid”? Why does it matter if someone catches covid if they don’t get seriously sick or die?
No, YOU don’t get it. I agree with your post completely. I was arguing a point of fact, and I am correct. Catching China Virus gives MORE protection than the vaccine, at least for nine months.
You are reflexively arguing and attributing Anthony Fauci’s pandemic views to everyone who argues anything other than the pandemic should be ignored.
For your information: My view, since the middle of last April, is that the vulnerable should be tightly protected, and the rest of us should go about our business, with occasional local lockdowns to control radical outbreaks.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:45 am to Penrod
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Catching China Virus gives MORE protection than the vaccine
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:46 am to lsupride87
....but they still have to wear a mask
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:47 am to Penrod
If I misunderstood your post I apologize.
I can’t agree with you here.
The vaccine is the best protection we will ever get. There is no proof that the virus will ever go away. It’s come back to island nations that completely eradicated it.
Telling vaccinated people to hold out until some arbitrary level of virus is reached doesn’t make sense. After vaccination you have the best chance to survive covid you will ever have. So what else are you holding out for? At some point we will all have to encounter the virus. There is no way around that.
That’s not true. I was sounding the alarm about this from the beginning and getting trashed by 95% of people on here. It’s real. But the vaccine is the best outcome that we will ever achieve. So IMO after that is done than live your life. Everything else is out of our control.
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Folks who are vulnerable should get vaccinated, keep up their guard, and wait for the virus to recede. In six months there will be almost no one in America with this virus. THAT is is when the highly vulnerable can feel very safe.
I can’t agree with you here.
The vaccine is the best protection we will ever get. There is no proof that the virus will ever go away. It’s come back to island nations that completely eradicated it.
Telling vaccinated people to hold out until some arbitrary level of virus is reached doesn’t make sense. After vaccination you have the best chance to survive covid you will ever have. So what else are you holding out for? At some point we will all have to encounter the virus. There is no way around that.
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You are reflexively arguing and attributing Anthony Fauci’s pandemic views to everyone who argues anything other than the pandemic should be ignored.
That’s not true. I was sounding the alarm about this from the beginning and getting trashed by 95% of people on here. It’s real. But the vaccine is the best outcome that we will ever achieve. So IMO after that is done than live your life. Everything else is out of our control.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:48 am to lsupride87
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Catching China Virus gives MORE protection than the vaccine
You giggled about this, and upon rereading I see that it can be taken as meaning that actually being sick with china virus is safer. Of course what I meant was “having recovered from the china virus leaves one safer than if one had only been vaccinated.”
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:51 am to BrohemAlem11
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but they still have to wear a mask
They contradicted themselves on this one didn’t they?
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:55 am to WaWaWeeWa
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The vaccine is the best protection we will ever get. There is no proof that the virus will ever go away. It’s come back to island nations that completely eradicated it.
Yes, but that is an island nation full of unvaccinated folks. Once we have 90% of Americans vaccinated that will keep the virus rare. I agree that vaccination is the way to safety. And for most of us, simply getting vaccinated is enough (Actually just being healthy is enough). But for the vulnerable, they should wait until the levels of infectiousness recede.
An example: Before vaccines, let’s say a vulnerable person who chose not to isolate at all had a 20% chance of getting china virus in the next year and a 30% chance of dying if he got it. That means he is facing a 6% chance of death by CV in the next year. Getting vaccinated reduces that by 94% to about 0.6% chance of dying. Waiting for herd immunity probably reduces his chances of catching it from 20% to about 0.01%. This reduces his chances of dying from 0.6% to about 0.006%. Worth it? That is a personal decision.
Obviously the percentages above are WAGs for the purpose of illustration, but they seem reasonable to me.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:56 am
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