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re: people who jump in to save people from drowning

Posted on 5/13/18 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109170 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 10:59 pm to
You act at the peril of your own life. No way could I witness someone drowning and do nothing.

If you are heading out to attempt a rescue, make sure you yell to others what is happening.

If you have a floating device near take it even if it is someone else's

That's why you approach someone from behind in a drowning situation. If you as the rescuer can keep your wits about you you should do fine. If people can remember to simply turn to your back you can float.

Most times people are caught in rip tides and it is useless trying to swim towards shore. You must swim parallel with the shore and then diagonally towards shore resting when feeling tired (remember turning to your back and resting, catching breath).

With all that said a person in a panic is not thinking and not in control. They can exhibit extreme strength and push the one rescuing under causing their drowning.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 12:24 am
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9425 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:03 pm to
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I took a running leap off of the high dive in a sport coat.

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I popped up with a pantsless black kid.

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Rando

Checks out.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20389 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:05 pm to
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In rescue training, at least in our unit, we were taught to knock a mother fricker out if they’re flailing uncontrollably and are going to take you down with them. Much easier to swim an unconscious, floating body back to shore than some flailing idiot


This/\ I have saved 2 people from drowning, 1 being my younger sister when we were kids on vacation. Motel pool, she couldn't swim and somehow got into the deep end. She did her best to drown me when I got close enough to help her, so I grabbed her by her long hair and pulled her to the side of the pool for someone to grab her.

The other time was when I worked at a boat launch and one of the owner's relatives came by to visit with her damn brat son. He kept running up and down the pier where we tied up the boats and fell into the water that was at least 8 ft. deep. I jumped in and found the little bastard on the bottom and dragged his arse out.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16524 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:11 pm to
I’m not gonna risk Phil Collins calling me out at one of his concerts. If I see a person drowning I’m gonna do whatever I can to help them.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6042 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:19 pm to
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They taught us if they ever get hold of you, go under. They'll let go if they feel themselves sinking. I'd hate to have tested that theory in action. All my shifts were boring.


Yep, go under, swim down and away then up. I had a 250+lb guy training us. He was brutal but he was good. Tough day of lifeguard training.
Posted by Andy Bernard
Cornell University
Member since Apr 2016
1758 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:19 pm to
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I’m not gonna risk Phil Collins calling me out at one of his concerts. If I see a person drowning I’m gonna do whatever I can to help them.


Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:20 pm to
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we were taught to knock a mother fricker out if they’re flailing uncontrollably and are going to take you down with them.


Underneath then behind them. When you emerge throw one arm over their shoulder other your other arm under their opposite arm, lock hands and roll through and keeping their back on your hip. They will stop struggling after a few seconds

If grabbed stroke upward to pull you both down and they will let go. In a panic they want anything that will keep them afloat, that’s you until you until it isn’t
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 12:26 am
Posted by GRIZZ
Morgan City
Member since Nov 2009
6326 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:21 am to
You have to know how to swim in a rip. Can’t fight it. If it pulls you out to sea, you have to go with it until you hit slack and then swim parallel to the beach until you can return to shore. It’s a lot easier done alone. If you’re able to calm the person down enough to get them to understand this approach it can be done. The problem is the panicked swimmer could potentially drown the rescuer.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 12:22 am
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8531 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:27 am to
I was a lifeguard for 2-3 summers and never had to save any kids. I brought a buddy to float the Amite River once though and had to save him. He told me that he couldn't swim, and I replied "yeah.. I could improve too. I wish I swam faster." He told me again later that he really couldn't swim and I brushed it off again saying that he would be fine and could touch most of it. Well we get out there and the river is high AF. 2 baws actually drowned later that weekend. My buddy jumped out of his tube while we were on a bank thinking he could touch. Turns out, he wasn't lying. He really couldn't swim . He panicked and abandoned his tube too. I had to swim across and grab him. Does it still count as a save if I'm really at fault to begin with?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28332 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:35 am to
my younger days, i would jump in to save them.

nowadays i'm out so out of shape theres no way i could do anything but get myself killed


swimming is exhausting
Posted by pongze
IE, SoCal
Member since Nov 2007
1713 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:03 am to
This happened a few years ago in Palm Springs. Everyone was brought to one of the hospitals that I work at, but I was not there that day. Man’s daughter drowned, he jumped in to save her. But, apparently, his daughter drowned due to electrocution from faulty wiring in the pool, and he was electrocuted and drowned, too. He died, she made it to a PICU but I don’t know if she survived or not. I can’t believe that it’s already been 2 years.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36636 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:25 am to
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What are you supposed to do if there isn’t a lifeguard nearby or anything? 



Break their nose. Just deck them in the nose.

They usually are so affected by the pain, they stop panicking about drowning to struggle with you and you can swim them back to shore.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:15 am to
Teach throw row go

Go is last.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56166 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:23 am to
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The ocean + a stranger? Nope.


So what if it were your wife and child and I was the only guy on the beach at the time? You're already forgiving me for something I didn't do for them. That sounds a little odd to me.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:49 am to
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It's dangerous for uneducated people, which is 99% of people
It's dangerous for everyone. A drowning person is extremely unpredictable
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:00 am to
Im a very strong swimmer. Never had to rescue anyone, but am aware that its certainly difficult when someone is freaking out, so I would have to approach carefully. Not trained, but couldnt sit around and do nothing. Worst case, I feel I could get away from them if it turns bad. If I myself got swept out, I can swim for miles, so i think I could stay afloat until help came.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3927 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:13 am to
Everytime I go to the beach, I immediately look around and see what people near me have some type of flotation device just in case I need to grab it and go. I have done that same routine for the last 15+ years. There are always 2-3 rafts/ styrofoam boogie boards etc within a short distance of me.

I’d grab one of those and try to go help.

Edit: when I took scuba lessons they trained us to approach them from the back and lock your elbow around their neck so they can’t grab you and push you under.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 6:16 am
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48182 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:19 am to
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Drowning is one of the worst ways to die.


How do you know?
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4589 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:39 am to
My lifeguard instructor had a prosthetic leg that he was able to fling back and forth when he was fake panicking during our test rescues... Hurt like a motherfricker.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 6:41 am to
I'll try my best to save them, but if they keep panicking and dunking me underwater, they can have at it.
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