re: People that use their kids as an excuse for not completing work obligations

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This thread really should be able lazy employees more than about parents.

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agreed to a certain point but lazy employees only exist under lacking leadership

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Thats getting down to the bone here.

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Yeah.

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Who says im contributing nothing here? I gave the Hooters girl a $20 tip. That money is probably going to her 'contributing to the continuation of the species and trying to raise a valuable member of society'

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And what of your co-worker's kid at that time? That's the trade-off we're talking about, right? We're getting into the woods of net value to society here, and whether your service in passing value to the hooters girl (and taking her time from serving someone else) makes up for the added expense on your co-worker for having to make child care arrangements.

I get that it's not "fair", but there's kind of an unwritten societal contract about child care, isn't there? I'll pick up your slack when I can with the expectation that you will do the same for me. If someone abuses that, they would abuse anything. But yes, children are a better excuse than most, and for good reason IMO. The next generation is the reason we work in the first place.

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Im Susan's boss, big man

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Then fire her or quit bitching.

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Then fire her or quit bitching.

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Use your brain

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most kid excuses are deemed legitimate/excused.

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Well yeah, why wouldn't they be?

I think Jones taking off at 2 to help put some Hooter's waitress through school is legitimate as well.

Reading all these comments reminds of something similar that happened to me.

At my job we are scheduled to work a two full weekends a month. At the start of the month a coworker had asked to switch weekends for their kids tournament and I had already had plans and told them I could not. Well come that date of their kids tournament they conveniently called in sick all weekend and guess who ended up covering their shift.

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sorry your spin of someone's hypothetical employee to make yourself look like mr. important didn't work out

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It's like you live in another dimension where words don't mean the same thing.

I have no idea why you are so upset.

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You're scared of her or something? Sounds like you're letting the inmates run the asylum.

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I see you tried and it's short circuiting

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put some Hooter's waitress through school is legitimate as well

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Hooters and Medical Leave Act