re: People that have had to go from remote to in office

Dang sorry you lost your Oklahoma athletic department PR job

I worked from home for 5 straight years up until last summer. It absolutely sucks. I’m a health freak so having to pack up all of my meals is a hassle and it often interrupts my lunch hour workout plans.

Also, they made us go back just to still spend all day in teams meetings and conducting business via computer software, email, and phone calls. My team is also scattered across four states and we support people in all four states as well. Little to no in person interaction with peers and stakeholders. It’s retarded. But hey, at least the commercial real estate CEO’s aren’t losing their asses.

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I’m a big morning workout guy so if I go to the office I’ll leave very early and workout on the way so I won’t see my family from 6am-6pm.

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After figuring in travel and work out times, will never ever get ahead only working those little hours.

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Being around your coworkers in an office simply can't be replaced in terms of value. Unless you waste it, which is what the people who will get triggered by that statement do.

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I feel like that’s overrated in the day and age of virtual team meetings though.

For me I walk my dog every day around lunch. I pick my kid up every day at 3. That means a lot

I’m going to giving all that up for spend 10 hours a day commuting and working all day just to go to meetings and make calls

At my current age (38), I value time with my family the most. If the more flexible job works for you financially, I’d take that and run.

Let me ask you guys this. Have you ever taken a new job and then some of the other companies you applied for starting reaching out?

What did you do in this scenario if you got a great offer two weeks after starting a job? Or even a month or two later?

Then I retract my previous statement concerning your management style

I'm not saying companies/managers who don't want employees to work from home are bad/wrong. If the associates don't like it, they can find an employer who better accommodates their work style. And since the covid years, those jobs are becoming more and more plentiful.

I just get into too many discussions where the office goers get heated with me and think WFH is a scam or that those employees are all lazy.

I personally have a hybrid schedule where I WFH on Mon and Fri. I'd love to do it 5 days a week, but I have a boss who thinks we need people manning the phones and fax machines at all times or else business is slow.

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Damn, I worked every day from 6A-6P every day because that is what the job demanded...

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I did this. Thought I was being a team player and a good employee. The issue is, when you are good at your job and/or very hard working (especially if other members of you team can't be or aren't), managers start relying on you more heavily and adding significantly to your workload.

At some point it goes from, "Well, I'm busing my arse now, because the hard work will pay off" to you being taken advantage of and not being compensated for all of the additional hours at the office and at home you're working.

I quit a job cold a few years ago because it became so stressful that I would rather risk getting fired for calling in sick regularly than show up. It was absolutely miserable with no hope of adding team members, or dividing work with other branches/areas to assist me with what was objectively an impossible workload. Took 3 months off with no job prospects (although I was confident in me resume and contacts that I would find something. I also had 2 years of expenses covered if I needed it). It was the best 3 months of my life.

That being said, to the OP, the grind wasn't so bad in my 20's and 30's, but now that I'm in my 40's, I'd rather just be financially secure (both present and future) and work a job that I can leave at the office and doesn't cause me to drink every day.

If you are happy with your routine, find an employers that will provide a work schedule that will best allow you to stick with your routine. If you are looking to climb a company ladder and compete for top management positions, then yeah, you'll have to suck it up and make sacrifices.

Never forget, you're interviewing these employers as much as they are interviewing you. You do what is going to make YOU and YOUR FAMILY happiest with an appropriate consideration for financial status weighed however you feel it needs to be weighed.

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This is an objectively bad take.

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Nope.