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re: Parents of girl who died of measles in TX say it was God's will, and to avoid vaccination

Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:55 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:55 am to
She got extremely sick because she didn’t have the simple vaccine….

Measles for most won’t be deadly. But once you get it there isn’t a magic bullet. It’s a virus. You treat the symptoms. For the unlucky few it will kill them.

If you think it’s as simple as she just needed some vitamin A there really is no point continuing with you
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 8:58 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:57 am to
"Why didn't the doctors do magic and save the child after a preventable disease had progressed to the point she had fatal complications?!"
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104754 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:58 am to
Just some simple vitamin A man
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104754 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:04 am to
My other favorite new thing is “well they didn’t die from the actual virus, they got extremely sick and then died from something else”



Umm, that’s kinda how a virus works. It doesn’t shoot you in the head. It wears your body down and then you are susceptible to secondary infections, organ failure, etc
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 9:06 am
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2601 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:05 am to
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"why didn't the doctors offer a simple recommendation of Vitamin A to prevent the disease from becoming a problem?!"




FIFY


nah just sit and wait at home to see how you fare.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97095 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:06 am to
I don’t understand the opposition to traditional vaccines which are just injecting you with a weakened form of the virus. It has the exact same effect on the body that the father in the article talks about only without the suffering and potential death
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:10 am to
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kid didn't die from the measles though. media manipulation of the story.


So you trying to imply the Measles aren't sometimes deadly?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:10 am to
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Parents of girl who died of measles in TX say it was God's will, and to avoid vaccination

Death cults are like that.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:11 am to
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Measles being reintroduced to the US followed other allowed waves of illegals by a Dem President as well as a lot of 3rd world refugees who in some cases were allowed to get vaccinations after arrival due to large numbers shipped in by Obama along with some using religious exemptions which shouldn’t be allowed for non-citizens coming in under a refugee program. They can stay in their piece of shite countries they helped create. Biden’s illegal problem was much worse


Holy gaslighting.

Measles vaccine is included in the first batch of vaccines GLOBALLY. So unless you think all these illegals were born in barns on bails of hay, you're wrong. Latin America has high vaccination rates, in general.

And if your argument is that these "dirty" illegals are risks because they aren't vaccinated, what the frick is your defense for Americans not getting vaccinated?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31701 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:19 am to
Well, they’re not wrong. Are they?

If God has a divine plan for everybody, when it’s your time to go what’s your time to go.

Innocent
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:24 am to
if it's god's will for a kid to die of measles then he is a pretty scummy god
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8868 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:25 am to
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kid didn't die from the measles though. media manipulation of the story.



"They recently appeared in an interview with antivaccine nonprofit Children’s Health Defense to talk about their daughter’s death."

Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3089 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:28 am to
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but seeing as we have no fricking clue what causes individual cancers


Just because you don't know what causes "individual cancers" doesn't mean that no one does.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97095 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:30 am to
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Well at a basic level, if God exists and is all powerful, then either this is in his will or he just doesn't care about anything that happens to us. Pick your faith poison in all of that.



God also gave man free will. God created the universe, he created us and everything around us. He gave us a path to salvation if we choose to take it. He gave us intelligence and the resources on earth to unlock secrets of the Universe, modern medicine being one of those.

Nowhere in scripture that I can recall does it say God micro manages everything on earth. He did not cause that girls death nor did He intervene to stop it. Her parents made a choice not to utilize modern medicine and her death was a consequence of that choice.

Pain and death are the punishment for sin going all the way back to the beginning when man disobeyed God. I would argue the decision by the parents to not utilize life saving medicine on their daughter was sinful in nature since it ultimately and unnecessarily caused her death.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22855 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:31 am to
Set aside your feelings on vaccination, what was done after the child developed measles? Did the family wait too long to actually go to see medical help or not?
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
556 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:32 am to
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including cod liver oil and vitamin A, which doctors say have no effect on measles.
Which doctors said this? According to ChatGPT:
quote:

The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends vitamin A supplementation for children diagnosed with measles, particularly in areas where vitamin A deficiency is common. The vitamin helps to strengthen the immune system, supports the repair of damaged tissues, and can reduce the risk of complications such as pneumonia and diarrhea, which are common in measles infections.
For added details on this case - below is an assessment by a doctor who reviewed the hospital records.
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Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97095 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:33 am to
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don't think many posters ITT are Mennonite but we're all discussing it


Considering they don’t use modern technology it’s highly unlikely one would post here
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22855 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:38 am to
Also the stats I’m seeing basically say all the measles cases are from unvaccinated and “unknown”. That should be 2 separate categories otherwise people could say they were just covering for vaccine failures by classifying as unknown.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104754 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:39 am to
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Set aside your feelings on vaccination, what was done after the child developed measles?
The child had a rash and fever. Visited pediatrician

Was prescribed fever reducing medication. 100% in line with protocol

Child’s breathing became labored, so the family brought the child to hospital. Child progressed worse, needed to be intubated, and then body developed secondary infections and she died

I know people don’t want to hear this but measles will kill people. Always had and always will
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22855 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:42 am to
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Considering they don’t use modern technology it’s highly unlikely one would post here


That’s another factor in all of this. These folks basically want to live a much simpler life. Does that mean they could be more susceptible to a disease like measles? Does that mean they are much less susceptible to other things that currently plague our society? Probably so. The old I get, the more I start to realize that people like these folks and the Amish are on to something.
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