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Palantir has secretly been using New Orleans to test its predictive policing technology
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:46 am
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:46 am
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According to Ronal Serpas, the department’s chief at the time, one of the tools used by the New Orleans Police Department to identify members of gangs like 3NG and the 39ers came from the Silicon Valley company Palantir. The company provided software to a secretive NOPD program that traced people’s ties to other gang members, outlined criminal histories, analyzed social media, and predicted the likelihood that individuals would commit violence or become a victim. As part of the discovery process in Lewis’ trial, the government turned over more than 60,000 pages of documents detailing evidence gathered against him from confidential informants, ballistics, and other sources — but they made no mention of the NOPD’s partnership with Palantir, according to a source familiar with the 39ers trial.
The program began in 2012 as a partnership between New Orleans Police and Palantir Technologies, a data-mining firm founded with seed money from the CIA’s venture capital firm. According to interviews and documents obtained by The Verge, the initiative was essentially a predictive policing program, similar to the “heat list” in Chicago that purports to predict which people are likely drivers or victims of violence.
The partnership has been extended three times, with the third extension scheduled to expire on February 21st, 2018. The city of New Orleans and Palantir have not responded to questions about the program’s current status.
Predictive policing technology has proven highly controversial wherever it is implemented, but in New Orleans, the program escaped public notice, partly because Palantir established it as a philanthropic relationship with the city through Mayor Mitch Landrieu’s signature NOLA For Life program. Thanks to its philanthropic status, as well as New Orleans’ “strong mayor” model of government, the agreement never passed through a public procurement process.
In fact, key city council members and attorneys contacted by The Verge had no idea that the city had any sort of relationship with Palantir, nor were they aware that Palantir used its program in New Orleans to market its services to another law enforcement agency for a multimillion-dollar contract.
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Even within the law enforcement community, there are concerns about the potential civil liberties implications of the sort of individualized prediction Palantir developed in New Orleans, and whether it’s appropriate for the American criminal justice system
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:49 am to Street Hawk
I have zero issue with this. If you aren’t engaged in bad stuff, you have nothing to worry about.
New Orleans needs drastic changes, which require drastic measures
New Orleans needs drastic changes, which require drastic measures
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 2:50 am
Posted on 3/1/18 at 3:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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have zero issue with this. If you aren’t engaged in bad stuff, you have nothing to worry about.
I would have totally agreed with you until last week I found out the big 3 credit reporting companies had totally tied up my credit rating. No way to contact them in a timely manner.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 3:22 am
Posted on 3/1/18 at 3:50 am to Street Hawk
Palantir is just another defense industry snake oil salesman. They've bundle their snake oil a bit differently but its just crap.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 4:36 am to C
Palantir is pretty awesome software assuming its getting fed the right data.
Can't really see any civil rights or privacy issues with the law enforcement community using it assuming it is only getting fed criminal and law enforcement data.
Can't really see any civil rights or privacy issues with the law enforcement community using it assuming it is only getting fed criminal and law enforcement data.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 4:40 am
Posted on 3/1/18 at 4:49 am to Street Hawk
Had no idea Palantir was originally designed in Germany.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 5:57 am to Street Hawk
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Carville is a paid adviser of Palantir whose involvement with the data-mining company dates back at least to 2011.
This is all you needed to see to understand why Mitch did it.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 6:06 am to Street Hawk
I could predict who's a criminal in New Orleans for way cheaper
Posted on 3/1/18 at 6:10 am to Street Hawk
It doesn’t really seem to be working in curbing criminal activity now does it? Or maybe they predict who may commit crimes, but our police, community, and courts just incompetently conspire together to not act in the information?
Posted on 3/1/18 at 6:11 am to Street Hawk
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Palantir established it as a philanthropic relationship with the city through Mayor Mitch Landrieu’s signature NOLA For Life program. Thanks to its philanthropic status, as well as New Orleans’ “strong mayor” model of government, the agreement never passed through a public procurement process.
Oh Mitch. I can’t wait for all his skeletons to come out.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 7:58 am to Oilfieldbiology
No one used this tool, nor did it ever predict a crime. It was no mystery who was in 3NG or the 110ers. These aren't spy agencies operating covertly.
Mitch had a data minion assigned to Harrison's office who would generate whatever came out of this system and place it in the file to make it seem like it helped.
/memberofmultiagencygangtaskforce
Mitch had a data minion assigned to Harrison's office who would generate whatever came out of this system and place it in the file to make it seem like it helped.
/memberofmultiagencygangtaskforce
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:01 am to tLSU
THen why the hell did hey get a multi million dollar government contract?
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:08 am to Oilfieldbiology
Because James Carville is both Palantir's lobbyist and one of Mitch's closest campaign advisors.
The system could be effective as a supplement in a place with heavy police presence and quick response times. It is absolutely useless when you have two units in an entire district scrambling from 911 call to 911 call in a 36 hour backlog.
The system could be effective as a supplement in a place with heavy police presence and quick response times. It is absolutely useless when you have two units in an entire district scrambling from 911 call to 911 call in a 36 hour backlog.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 8:11 am
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:23 am to BestBanker
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Is it working?
They thought it was initially
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After the first two years of Palantir’s involvement with NOPD, the city saw a marked drop in murders and gun violence, but it was short-lived. Even former NOPD Chief Serpas believes that the preventative effect of calling in dozens of at-risk individuals — and indicting dozens of them — began to diminish.
“When we ended up with nearly nine or 10 indictments with close to 100 defendants for federal or state RICO violations of killing people in the community, I think we got a lot of people’s attention in that criminal environment,” Serpas said, referring to the racketeering indictments. “But over time, it must’ve wore off because before I left in August of ‘14, we could see that things were starting to slide”
Nick Corsaro, the University of Cincinnati professor who helped build NOPD’s gang database, also worked on an evaluation of New Orleans’ CeaseFire strategy. He found that New Orleans’ overall decline in homicides coincided with the city’s implementation of CeaseFire program, but the Central City neighborhoods targeted by the program “did not have statistically significant declines that corresponded with November 2012 onset date.”
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:26 am to tLSU
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The system could be effective as a supplement in a place with heavy police presence and quick response times. It is absolutely useless when you have two units in an entire district scrambling from 911 call to 911 call in a 36 hour backlog.
Totally agree with this
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