re: Over employed - learned this term on Reddit

I worked two jobs for around 20 of the 30 years I lived in Dallas. I had a real job and a fun job. My fun job really didn't negatively affect my real job.

Real job: Selling advertising.
Fun job: Working Mavericks games.

During the playoffs, I'd take a few days off from the real job. I usually only worked half days on Fridays anyway.

The company I worked for had other ad sales reps that worked for more than one advertising entity. That wasn't cool at all. One guy, who worked with me, sold advertising for a Hispanic publication. He called on a furniture store that ran ads with me.I ratted him out to our manager. He was fired.

Another ad rep was sitting on a used car lot selling cars while he was supposed to be calling on prospective, or current customers. He was also fired.

I used to get offers from business owners that wanted me to sell direct mail advertising. One was a lady who ran a remodeling contractor business. She had figured out how many other businesses she needed for it to cost her nothing, and wanted me to sell the other ads for her. She invited me to lunch at her house when she proposed the idea. I declined the offer.

ETA: As long as sales reps were making their goals my company didn't micromanage us. It would have been easy to double dip on their time. I have always taken pride in being honest with people. I worked for the same place for 28 years.

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He called on a furniture store that ran ads with me.I ratted him out to our manager. He was fired.

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What a rat

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The employer engaged in wage theft and time card manipulation of its employees. You are saying that’s perfectly fine. There should be no recourse for the employees.

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No, that's in violation of the FLSA.

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It’s that you claimed to work 38 hours at 3 different jobs. You didn’t.

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If you aren't punching in and out in order to be paid, you aren't claiming that you worked any hours. You're being paid a salary and work is being performed for that salary.

So you agree that not working for a full 40 hours isn't illegal, but it's what you do with the hours that you aren't working for that first job that makes it illegal?

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Pretty easy to filter if you just ask for references from prior employers

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Unfortunately, I would imagine this is a lost "art" in the hiring process since most HR departments now tell managers not to give references and only verify dates of employment.

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This isn't happening. People are not performing their work well for any of them. They know they'll be fired eventually. This isn't working multiple jobs to make ends meet. It's lying to organizations and essentially stealing from them.

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There are a few guys I know that work for top 5 CyberSecurity companies that do 2-3 jobs on top of their primary.

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I've been a consultant in the same field for 20 years. I'm almost never working on just one client at once, which is almost like having multiple employers. There are always delays in document production (if I send out a request at the beginning of the project, eight different people at the client are going to take at least a week to get something back to me, etc.) I have to work with external auditors who are also working for multiple clients, etc.

It's not much different than working for multiple employers. People are so...f'ing... slow, it gives you plenty of time for other stuff.

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I don't have a "contract" either, but we have an employee handbook with written company policy, like I'd imagine most companies the size of mine would have. My time being exclusive to them is certainly outlined in that handbook.

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As someone who has litigated that clause in many employee handbooks, most are not that explicit.