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Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:41 pm to toosleaux
Sounds like you fellas need to give her a crash course to show her what actual sexist talk is like.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:42 pm to toosleaux
I call women my own age sweetie.
Tough shite.
Tough shite.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:44 pm to SabiDojo
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It's not sexist but it is condescending and thus inappropriate
Yeah, it doesn't take much imagination to see how this would/could be an inappropriate comment.
Without knowing the tone of the conversation, it's hard to tell.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:46 pm to toosleaux
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she's a professional and expects to be treated as such.
Fine. "Marginally acceptable worker bee" it is.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:47 pm to stelly1025
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She needs to be told to suck it up buttercup
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:48 pm to SabiDojo
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It's not sexist but it is condescending/patronizing and thus inappropriate.
Maybe and I can see that, but is it really that big a deal? That's what I don't get about these situations. It may be inappropriate, but just don't worry about it. If it really chaps your arse that bad just say hey please don't call me that. 99% of people will say ok and apologize. It's just made a way bigger deal then it needs to be.
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Back in my day you just expected 70 year olds to be sexist/racist and life moved on.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:49 pm to toosleaux
quote:she sounds like a young, stupid cÛnt
We have a 71 year old man that is a consultant on certain cases. He literally said "thank you young lady" to her on the phone for getting his time entered, and apparently wasn't the first time he said it to her. She complained to the boss it was demeaning, she's a professional and expects to be treated as such. I mean really? "Young lady"?
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:51 pm to SabiDojo
I can see that side but if someone calls me "young man" I don't consider condescending. Do you?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:53 pm to rocket31
he's trying to be nice by giving her what is in his mind a benign compliment ... why not just say "thank you" ... young lad - er, women, don't need compliments from guys in the day/day employee rela - er, transaction ...
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:53 pm to slackster
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FWIW, it's plausible that "young lady" can be said in such a way that it's demeaning.
It's like calling a guy "buddy." The tone is everything.
what the frick do you know about this, guy
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Maybe and I can see that, but is it really that big a deal? That's what I don't get about these situations
I agree with the caveat that it depends on the circumstance.
In certain settings it can be seen as incredibly unprofessional.
If you're speaking at a board meeting and someone addresses you as "young man", I think that's both highly unprofessional and inappropriate.
If opposing counsel addresses you as "young lady", that's highly unprofessional.
In passing at the office? I'm not one to make a big deal of small things, but in big things it can be seen as a means to undermine both your credibility and your position.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:54 pm to rocket31
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I can see that side but if someone calls me "young man" I don't consider condescending. Do you?
if they start singing it, yes ...
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:57 pm to VinegarStrokes
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hat the frick do you know about this, guy
Calm down, pal.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:58 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I was told by the VP of HR to be mindful that saying "morning ladies" could be offensive, and that I should think about just sticking to "morning". Whatcha gonna do?
It's all about context.
vs.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:59 pm to slackster
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Calm down, pal.
there was a thread a few weeks (or months?) ago where people were debating how condescending it was for some one to refer to another dude as "guy"Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:00 pm to SabiDojo
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If you're speaking at a board meeting and someone addresses you as "young man", I think that's both highly unprofessional and inappropriate.
Good one. I've seen "young man" used as a replacement for "you POS"
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:02 pm to toosleaux
Jesus. One quite a few occasions, I have worked with older men who would say to younger guys "thank you young man" or just in general say something like "how was your weekend young man?" and in no way did I once think there was something wrong with it.
I use to work with one guy who called everyone "tiger" and that was annoying as frick, but funny at the same time because we would count the number of times he would say "tiger" in a day.. But he ended up getting fired for having inappropriate material on his computer. One day the manager, HR and one of the IT guys went into his office, shut the door.. About 10 mins later the manager and IT guy walked out while the HR lady stayed in. The door was closed again and about 15 mins later they both walked out, he was carrying two boxes and we never saw him again. Everyone asked the IT guy and all he would say was "he had inappropriate material on his computer". He wouldn't say if it was porn or what type of porn.. Or anything.. Anyway.. That's besides the point.
As the sexual assault/harassment accusations continue to snowball, it could be a dangerous situation. All of a sudden, you have a very gray area of what is sexual harassment. Calling someone a "young lady", IMO at least, isn't in no way sexual harassment, but you really never know what someone will take as sexual harassment.
I use to work with one guy who called everyone "tiger" and that was annoying as frick, but funny at the same time because we would count the number of times he would say "tiger" in a day.. But he ended up getting fired for having inappropriate material on his computer. One day the manager, HR and one of the IT guys went into his office, shut the door.. About 10 mins later the manager and IT guy walked out while the HR lady stayed in. The door was closed again and about 15 mins later they both walked out, he was carrying two boxes and we never saw him again. Everyone asked the IT guy and all he would say was "he had inappropriate material on his computer". He wouldn't say if it was porn or what type of porn.. Or anything.. Anyway.. That's besides the point.
As the sexual assault/harassment accusations continue to snowball, it could be a dangerous situation. All of a sudden, you have a very gray area of what is sexual harassment. Calling someone a "young lady", IMO at least, isn't in no way sexual harassment, but you really never know what someone will take as sexual harassment.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:05 pm to toosleaux
Profession?
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