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re: OTD in 1865, Gen. Lee gave his sword to Gen. Grant
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:17 pm to JackieTreehorn
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:17 pm to JackieTreehorn
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If both sides had equivalent resources and population, the South would have won it in under 2 years.
If the South had gone for the kill (as in invade the North and take Washington) on the several occasions they had routed the northern army during the 1st two years they would have won! (ex. 1st Bull Run..)
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 12:20 pm
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:22 pm to Ash Williams
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Was when we decided to start importing slave labor
SEC baseball would be even more intense today
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:23 pm to klrstix
The south wasn’t out to conquer the north.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:29 pm to magildachunks
you are one of those fricking idiots im talking about in my last post.
The North had slaves.
The North had slaves.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:38 pm to CarRamrod
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The North had slaves.
No shite.
They didn't wage a war to keep them though.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:39 pm to magildachunks
They did wage a war to keep the south as slaves. The north knew they couldn't lose that tax money from us
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:47 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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What Grant and Sherman did was wholesale slaughter of innocents.
Grant really did not make war on the entire population. He laid seige to Vicksburg, but that was because Pemberton resisted for far too long and thought help was coming from Walker. In reality Pemberton after having his arse handed to him at Port Gibson and then Raymond and then again at Champion Hill, he should have surrendered. He had at most 18,000 men with Grant having 35,000 with more on the way and control of the Mississippi.
Southern Historians like to make a monster out of WTS because of what happened on his March to the Sea, but in reality, Sherman did not have time to mess with the population for he was moving way too fast, the biggest things they did was "requisition" supplies from the surrounding area and destroy infrastructure, mainly, rail lines.
Look, it was Civil War and they are seldom pretty affairs
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:55 pm to magildachunks
quote:oh the good ole "Do as i say not as i do" excuse. Idiot.
No shite.
They didn't wage a war to keep them though.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:57 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The north should have forced the south to ship all the slaves home.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:05 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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What Grant and Sherman did was wholesale slaughter of innocents.
Acting like that was the first time that had ever happened is what I am laughing at.
It wasn't even the first time it happened on American soil.
But I guess you think the slaughter of the Native Americans doesn't count?
Never mind that those sympathetic to the Confederacy did the same shite to Unionists. Where do you think the hate between Kansas and Missouri came from?
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:17 pm to KiwiHead
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the biggest things they did was "requisition" supplies from the surrounding area
And the confederate were far worse about doing that to their own people.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:23 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Best cavalry commander of all time.
Bruh
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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In an untraditional gesture and as a sign of Grant's respect and anticipation of peacefully restoring Confederate states to the Union, Lee was permitted to keep his sword and his horse, Traveller
Grant was no to be very magnanimous. It wasn't a nontraditional gesture for him at all. He was known to let surrendered officers keep their swords and sidearms.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:40 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Grant looks like such a pussy.
That's just your projection. He was anything but a pussy.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:41 pm to 777Tiger
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probably saying to Lee, "I don't give a shite about your sword, give me all of your whiskey bitch!"
He didn't drink during campaigns when he was in the field.
What most people think they know about Grant's drinking habits is mostly bullshite.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:44 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Because the southern leadership was immensely better than the union’s, especially at the outset.
Not really. That's just mostly myth, but one that Southerners are partial to.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:48 pm to Chuker
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You know the world isn't fair when the second greatest general (Washington #1) of modern time seceded his sword to an alcoholic silver spoon.
You know someone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about when they post bullshite like that right there.
Grant was far from a silver spoon, and a better general than Lee. His Vicksburg campaign was the best of the war.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:50 pm to Sayre
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Grant was far from a silver spoon
Maybe he meant to put that after Lee: the aristocratic elitest who they put on a pedestal right up there with Jesus in the south.
Southerners have The Father, the Son, and General Lee.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:54 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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frick that, the south wanted to exit peacefully, Lincoln wouldn’t allow it.
The South fired the first shots.
You really need to study up some.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:54 pm to crispyUGA
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This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 1:58 pm
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