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OT Traffic Lawyers
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:42 am
Energency vehicles
Often, I see emergency vehicles lighting up traffic just to get through an intersection or quick access to the freeway and shut it down. From a perspective, seems like a douche move. But I was wondering if they have a right to do so to keep them in a better position to respond effectively, or is it just a douche move?
Out here, ambulance curriers are contracted by the city or on call for responses, so it is them that I see do it the most, but I have noticed more fire trucks do it as well. In the back of my mind, I wanna curse the move, but then I get to thinking it is a strategic maneuver that gives them an advantage to live emergencies. I really don't care one way or the other and I appreciate everything they do, but lighting up traffic just to shut it down later is a curious oddity.
Often, I see emergency vehicles lighting up traffic just to get through an intersection or quick access to the freeway and shut it down. From a perspective, seems like a douche move. But I was wondering if they have a right to do so to keep them in a better position to respond effectively, or is it just a douche move?
Out here, ambulance curriers are contracted by the city or on call for responses, so it is them that I see do it the most, but I have noticed more fire trucks do it as well. In the back of my mind, I wanna curse the move, but then I get to thinking it is a strategic maneuver that gives them an advantage to live emergencies. I really don't care one way or the other and I appreciate everything they do, but lighting up traffic just to shut it down later is a curious oddity.
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:44 am to Cajunlostincali
No, they do not have "the right" to do that.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:44 am to Cajunlostincali
Lots of times they can be responding to a call but not necessarily an emergency call. They still need to get to the scene quickly.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:45 am to Cajunlostincali
quote:
I really don't care one way or the other and I appreciate everything they do, but lighting up traffic just to shut it down later is a curious oddity.
frick that and frick cops who think they are above the law.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:46 am to Cajunlostincali
R.S. 69:3.50
Emergency vehicles shall not engage emergency lighting and signals in an effort to avoid traffic for convenience. Said operator shall be considered a douche.
Emergency vehicles shall not engage emergency lighting and signals in an effort to avoid traffic for convenience. Said operator shall be considered a douche.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:51 am to Cajunlostincali
Often, an emergency vehicle is automatically dispatched to a call using lights and siren. If more information becomes available, and the situation is not dire, they are downgraded and turn off their lights and siren. The operators don’t control when and where they get downgraded.
Certainly, there will be the occasional douchebag who abuses it, but that is the exception.
Certainly, there will be the occasional douchebag who abuses it, but that is the exception.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:52 am to Cajunlostincali
They are probably just trying to outrun the amberlamps chasing attorneys as safely as possible.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:16 am to Cajunlostincali
"traffic lawyers"... 
the frick is a traffic lawyer?
the frick is a traffic lawyer?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:51 am to Kyrie Eleison
This is how BRPD gets up and down Perkins Road every day.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:53 am to Cajunlostincali
just like cops who do it just because they can, you cant really prove they werent on a call just not with sirens
and the cops couldnt care less because they break the law 1000x more then the random ambulance does. ambulance can lose his job over it, cops wont
and the cops couldnt care less because they break the law 1000x more then the random ambulance does. ambulance can lose his job over it, cops wont
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:00 pm to Cajunlostincali
quote:They're called 1Ls. Get it right.
OT Traffic Lawyers
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:04 pm to RougeDawg
quote:
R.S. 69:3.50
That was a particularly nice touch. Bravo
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:16 pm to Cajunlostincali
When I was in traffic court, there was ambulance driver in front of the judge for using his lights with no patient in the bus.
His story was that he had received a call about his father being taken to the hospital so he lit up the roof and raced to the hospital.
Luckily, the old judge was cool. He asked the DA what the minimum fine was, driver plead guilty and left. Minimum fine was something ridiculous like $5 plus $25 court fees (judge waived the court fees).
His story was that he had received a call about his father being taken to the hospital so he lit up the roof and raced to the hospital.
Luckily, the old judge was cool. He asked the DA what the minimum fine was, driver plead guilty and left. Minimum fine was something ridiculous like $5 plus $25 court fees (judge waived the court fees).
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:18 pm to Displaced
quote:
frick cops who think they are above the law.
I know good cops and I know bad cops. ALL cops and good and bad believe this to some extent.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:56 pm to Cajunlostincali
You don't know what code they are dispatched.
It might be code 2 where it is lights and sirens the whole way responding to an emergency.
Or code 3 where it is without lights and sirens except to get thru traffic to respond quickly.
Or code 4 where they use no lights or sirens.
Also some times another unit responds and they get called off of it due to closer units or they find out the emergency is handled or never was a real emergency.
It might be code 2 where it is lights and sirens the whole way responding to an emergency.
Or code 3 where it is without lights and sirens except to get thru traffic to respond quickly.
Or code 4 where they use no lights or sirens.
Also some times another unit responds and they get called off of it due to closer units or they find out the emergency is handled or never was a real emergency.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:08 pm to theenemy
You’ve got your codes wrong, and it doesn’t matter anyway. They will always say they are responding to an emergency.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:46 pm to Cajunlostincali
Not sure about other states but I remember reading the laws pertaining to this in Louisiana and I seem to recall language similar to, "in responding to an emergency". So to answer your question, at least in Louisiana, I would say likely no.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:52 pm to Cajunlostincali
Found it -
quote:
TITLE 32 — Motor vehicles and traffic regulation
RS 32:24 — Emergency vehicles; exceptions
§24. Emergency vehicles; exceptions
A. The driver or rider of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call, or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law, or when responding to, but not upon returning from, a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this Section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.
B. The driver or rider of an authorized emergency vehicle may do any of the following:
(1) Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of this Chapter.
(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down or stopping as may be necessary for safe operation.
(3) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does not endanger life or property.
(4) Disregard regulations governing the direction of movement or turning in specified directions.
C. The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle shall apply only when such vehicle or bicycle is making use of audible or visual signals, including the use of a peace officer cycle rider's whistle, sufficient to warn motorists of their approach, except that a police vehicle need not be equipped with or display a red light visible from in front of the vehicle.
D. The foregoing provisions shall not relieve the driver or rider of an authorized vehicle from the duty to drive or ride with due regard for the safety of all persons, nor shall such provisions protect the driver or rider from the consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of others.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:46 pm to Cajunlostincali
They also are exempt from liability if they hit someone while driving to the scene of an accident, assuming they had their lights and sirens engaged, regardless of who caused the accident.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:51 pm to FearTheFish
quote:
They're called 1Ls. Get it right.
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