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re: OT to the Rescue to Save Education in America

Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10055 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:55 pm to
ahhh...

the yearly teacher thread where people who aren't parents to current students and people who have no idea what an actual teacher has to deal with, come to chime in
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
18919 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:59 pm to
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require a year-long course in finance. We spend years on algebra, for example, but kids graduate not knowing the difference between an IRA and a 401k. It's criminal.


It's an elective at Dutchtown HS for the past few years. All of my kids will be signing up for that one.

Sadly, it's currently being taught by a coach.

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Financial Literacy: This course focuses on personal finance, covering topics such as understanding paychecks and income, budgeting, banking, credit, loans, buying a house or car, insurance, and investments. It counts as a math credit for the TOPS Tech Diploma and an elective for the TOPS University Diploma.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34584 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:01 pm to
Restore the nuclear family, end entitlements, promote Christian values throughout society. The state of public education in some areas is a symptom, it's not the disease.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:03 pm to
Teachers need to be gods of their content rather than facilitating so called "student led learning".
Additionally, We need to seriously differentiate between education for the sake of education and education for the sake of gaining employment.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:07 pm to
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It's an elective at Dutchtown HS for the past few years. All of my kids will be signing up for that one.

Sadly, it's currently being taught by a coach.
We had this in my HS in TN in the late 90s. It's always been taught by a coach anywhere I've seen it. Basically a goof-off senior elective.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3479 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Spinoff of today's thread about teachers being cranky headed back to the classroom after "60 days off". We at the OT have used our powers for good & for evil over the last 3+ decades. I say we use this thread, at least, for good: How can we actually "save" &/or improve public education in the U.S. ?


End it, save for the means proven indigent.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28890 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:11 pm to
I’m a teacher. My last day was June 3, I’ve been back since July 14. Where’s the rest of the 60 days I had off?
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
18919 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:11 pm to
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TN in the late 90s

Glad Louisiana is catching up 30 years later.

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goof-off senior elective

I'm slightly worried that may be the case here also.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:12 pm to
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I’m a teacher. My last day was June 3, I’ve been back since July 14. Where’s the rest of the 60 days I had off?

If that wasn't a personal choice then you need to do something about it.
If it was a personal choice, then you can't complain.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37705 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:21 pm to
Remove problem kids from the classroom and put them in the military
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147739 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:26 pm to
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We at the OT have used our powers for good & for evil over the last 3+ decades. I say we use this thread, at least, for good:


How can we actually "save" &/or improve public education in the U.S. ?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147739 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Where’s the rest of the 60 days I had off?
maybe ur ol lady ran off with them too
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60240 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:33 pm to
Allow the teacher to dispense discipline with total legal protection from any lawsuits over said arse whippings.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28890 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:38 pm to
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maybe ur ol lady ran off with them too


Sick burn
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72705 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:53 pm to
I've posted this before, so Ill simply copy and paste.

Education at every level is bloated and broken. At what point do we let the grown-ups take over?

How about we bring in some competent white-collar professionals with common sense and a spine? Start with mandatory audits—top to bottom at every level. No one is safe. Everything is transparent.

ISD Superintendent pulling in $750K for a three-day workweek? Fired. We can find a dozen former executives who’d do it better for half the pay and wouldn’t need summer vacation.

Two full-time assistants for the drama department? What is this—Broadway? Fired.

“Behavioral Assistant Vice Principal”? Sounds like a made-up role based on feeeewings. Fired.

Director of Equity and Inclusion with a $200K salary and no students in their office all year? Fired.

“Community Enrichment Strategist” on payroll? Fired.

Oh, and the $80,000 budget for “student wellness murals” and “therapeutic gardening”? Cute. Delete it from the books and fire who ever initiated the grants.

We don’t need more consultants, safe-space coordinators, or vibe curators in education. We need teachers who teach, students who learn, and leadership that’s accountable.

It’s that fricking simple. But noooo….we need to subsidize grown adults with meaningless degrees and put them in charge of our children’s education.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49030 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:03 pm to
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Rework math requirements in high school to require a year-long course in finance. We spend years on algebra, for example, but kids graduate not knowing the difference between an IRA and a 401k. It's criminal.


This harms the students at the higher end. Requiring them to take a year long course on financially literacy means they won’t be able to take an upper level math (advanced calculus, trigonometry, etc.)
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1555 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:05 pm to
1. There should be 5 classes per day - Math, English/Spelling, Science, History and Physical Education
2. The classes should be taught by rote from K to 7
3. Removal of the teachers' unions
4. Free enterprise should be a mandated class
5. End all social advancement promotions
6. Financial Literacy - There should be a Financial Literacy class mandated for graduation that includes: Earning, saving, budgeting, spending,investing, loans, credit cards, insurance, education and careers (the ROI on degrees and the financial commitment to repay the loans) and taxes. Specifically, students need to understand the amount of their earnings that are taken by the government in local state and federal taxes and what it's used to fund.


Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
820 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:07 pm to
1 thing that baffles me is how in any state/district in the U.S. that we have School Board members serving in roles with 0-5 years of classroom experience.

How in the world do we not have School Boards full of teachers with experience in the classroom of 15+ years as well as at least a Masters Degree in Education?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29893 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Allow the teacher to dispense discipline with total legal protection from any lawsuits over said arse whippings.


That will end well.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1701 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:15 pm to
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Requiring them to take a year long course on financially literacy means they won’t be able to take an upper level math (advanced calculus, trigonometry, etc.)


Not really. Any math should be able to be used in the spot of an elective. Zero reason that academically gifted students can't stack classes.
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