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re: OT Science Baws - Why is Alchemy No Longer Taught?

Posted on 7/30/24 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 5:34 pm to
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 Aleister Crowley is another and credited his mastery of Black Magic
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 5:43 pm to
They just changed the name to chemistry.
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 6:08 pm to
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Ummm, I thought I covered that in my OP. Google Aleister Crowley Alchemy for one. Or Jack Parsons Alchemy. Or don't.

Well that’s certainly.. something.

WIRED: Occultist father of rocketry 'written out' of Nasa's history

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At the same time -- 1941 -- Parsons started to have a sexual relationship with his wife's Helen's 17-year-old sister Sara -- something that was encouraged by his church. His wife started a relationship with one of the church's most senior members, Talbot Smith. The four of them, along with other Thelemites ended up moving into a large house together in Pasadena. Drugs flowed freely, as did sexual partners.

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In 1945, science fiction writer -- and later the founder of Scientology -- L Ron Hubbard moved into the Pasadena lodge. Sara took an interest in Hubbard, which made Parsons jealous. He developed a deeper interest in witchcraft and the darker side of magic, becoming fascinated by poltergeists and ghostly apparitions.

In a bid to find conjure up a new lover, he took part in extraordinary rituals where he would masturbate onto magical tablets to the sound of music. "After his girlfriend ran off with Hubbard, he decided to create his own girlfriend and summon an elemental," explains Pendle.

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He ended up applying his skills to create pyrotechnics and explosives for the film industry. Just before a planned trip to Mexico in 1952, Parsons -- who was 37 -- received a large order of explosives for a movie. While preparing the order, there was an explosion involving mercury in which Parsons suffered fatal wounds -- some of his friends suspected a state-sponsored conspiracy although it was ruled an accident.

OP might be a troll or a Liberator alter, but I appreciate being pointed towards an interesting story.

That being said, otherwise smart people (“savants” even) with eccentric/strange beliefs aren’t exactly unheard of.

To the question posed in the actual OP - the parts of medieval alchemy that evolved into modern science (through experimentation and validation via scientific method) are now taught as chemistry, materials science, or maybe even physics in some cases. Medieval alchemists weren’t necessarily kooks, they were practitioners working with the knowledge available to them at the time.

When people talk about modern “alchemists,” it generally refers to folks who still subscribe to those medieval theories that didn’t make it into modern science (the obvious example being transmutation of lead into gold without the help of a nuclear reaction), despite overwhelming scientific evidence that those theories were incorrect. In other words, the guy actually running experiments to try to transmute lead into gold way back in the dark ages deserves a lot more respect than the guy in 2024 who reads about it on the internet and says “see, THEY don’t want you to know about this!!”
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 6:10 pm
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 6:17 pm to
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Aleister Crowley is another and credited his mastery of Black Magic not to chemistry, but to alchemy.


Referencing a certified psycho to make an argument is a bold move
Posted by mudshuvl05
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 7:14 pm to
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Witch hunts and inquisitions
Isn't that what the mean old Louisianians are doing to the fair mayor of New Orleans?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 7:17 pm to
The world’s most famous alchemist - Sir Issac Newton - one the world’s greatest scientists, some would argue the world’s greatest scientist.

LINK
Posted by SRV
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 8:33 pm to
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We don't call it that anymore.


I literally laughed out loud. Well done

Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:36 pm to
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 3:35 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:08 am to
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alchemy was well supported with chemistry sets for students in the 60's, but that all went the way of fat sam when the govt got involved in hazard mitigation. We did some pretty cool stuff with strong reagents


So alchemy is simply mixing shite together to see what happens?

That ain’t dead, baw. Go visit Dow Chemical. Or my backyard circa 1985.

Also, does the Hadron Collider count as alchemy? Smash shite together to see what happens?
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:14 am to
Posted by cyarrr
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:35 am to
Organic Alchemy was a difficult class when I was a student at LSU.

Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:24 am to
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Of course not. They said it's classified. I inferred that to mean weaponry advantages, biological warfare advantages etc. Essentially they said specialized steel can be made at 275 miles above earth's atmosphere, but that's as much info as I got out of the $10/hr tour guide.


Nothing classified happens on the INTERNATIONAL Space Station, and very little not involving launching a NSA satellite was done on STS missions, That's just the nature of that latter platform.

In terms of steel or AL, you can do some interesting things like foam steel ( LINK) easier in micro-g, and you can get both interesting material properties and interesting grain structures, whether foamed or not. Foam metals have been tested for use in armor, which may have extrapolated to the "classified" remark from the tour guide.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:27 am to
Thankfully my HOA banned alchemy last year.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:30 am to
Because the rich guys in the illuminati are hoarding all the gold.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:51 am to
Alchemy was born in ancient Egypt, not medieval Europe.
Posted by Smoke Ring
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:13 am to
The better question is why is usury no longer taught?
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