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OT Science Baws - Why is Alchemy No Longer Taught?

Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:55 pm
Posted by FizzyPop
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:55 pm
Seems like a lot of really smart people from years ago had a solid foundation in Alchemy. Jack Parsons was one that credited his mastery of rocket propulsion to learning alchemy. Aleister Crowley is another and credited his mastery of Black Magic not to chemistry, but to alchemy.

I went on a tour of NASA in Clear Lake and they flat out said alchemy techniques are still used when experimenting with particles at a much higher elevation like the Int'l Space Station.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Black Magic

We don't call it that anymore.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:57 pm to
We don't need any more micro-breweries and fruity beer.
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:59 pm to
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OT Science Baws - Why is Alchemy No Longer Taught?


Once they figured out how to turn lead into gold, they shut down.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:01 pm to
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went on a tour of NASA in Clear Lake and they flat out said alchemy techniques are still used when experimenting with particles at a much higher elevation like the Int'l Space Station.


Alchemy is still taught, it's just called chemistry now.

Witch hunts and inquisitions still persist though, so you're halfway there.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:03 pm to
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We don't need any more micro-breweries and fruity beer.



What else am I supposed to drink while throwing axes?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Why is Alchemy No Longer Taught?



Because chemistry produces better and real results.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:05 pm to
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Once they figured out how to turn lead into gold, they shut down.

I always thought alchemy was fake science from centuries ago that tried just that… turning various metals into gold, or some other wizardry that didn’t work.
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:07 pm to
These days it's called "crypto", in which conjurers magically turn perfectly good electricity into "currency".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:11 pm to
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These days it's called "crypto", in which conjurers magically turn perfectly good electricity into "currency".


Maybe the fiat currency guys are former alchemy guys. They grew frustrated that they couldn't turn other base metals into gold so they invented fiat currency. Now they just enter zeros in a computer and voila', digital gold.
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:11 pm to
Because this baw ruined it for everyone:

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:11 pm to
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I went on a tour of NASA in Clear Lake and they flat out said alchemy techniques are still used when experimenting with particles


Did they mention what type of particles?
Posted by FizzyPop
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Member since Jun 2024
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:15 pm to
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Did they mention what type of particles?


Of course not. They said it's classified. I inferred that to mean weaponry advantages, biological warfare advantages etc. Essentially they said specialized steel can be made at 275 miles above earth's atmosphere, but that's as much info as I got out of the $10/hr tour guide.
Posted by RTN
Member since Oct 2016
887 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:16 pm to
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Witch hunts and inquisitions still persist though


I been witch hunt
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:23 pm to
What's the difference between Alchemy and Chemistry?

I'll hang up and listen...
Posted by FizzyPop
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Member since Jun 2024
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:27 pm to
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I'll hang up and listen...


Ummm, I thought I covered that in my OP. Google Aleister Crowley Alchemy for one. Or Jack Parsons Alchemy. Or don't.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:33 pm to
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What's the difference between Alchemy and Chemistry?


Might as well quote the google definitions for this.

Alchemy:
quote:

the medieval forerunner of chemistry, based on the supposed transformation of matter. It was concerned particularly with attempts to convert base metals into gold or to find a universal elixir.


Chemistry:
quote:

the branch of science that deals with the identification of the substances of which matter is composed; the investigation of their properties and the ways in which they interact, combine, and change; and the use of these processes to form new substances.


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:42 pm to
I get the impression that your NASA tour guide said alchemy because the scientist conducting experiments in the Space Station called it alchemy. They probably called it alchemy in jest and at the same time being semi-serious. They are conducting experiments in a new environment (no gravity...or very little). Under these new and unknown conditions you can't assume the reaction will happen the same as on earth. Some of these experiments probably make them nervous without gravity to assist in containing the experiments. So they jokingly call it alchemy.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10907 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:57 pm to
alchemy was well supported with chemistry sets for students in the 60's, but that all went the way of fat sam when the govt got involved in hazard mitigation. We did some pretty cool stuff with strong reagents
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 5:26 pm to
People began allocating their +XP elsewhere.
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