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re: OT Lawyers - a question about liability

Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31973 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:53 am to
You’re in Louisiana, ever drive down the road and notice all the lawyer billboards? Ever notice what percentage of tv advertising are lawyer commercials?


If you’re so concerned, just put the cars in your kid’s name….and let them pay their own insurance. I’m sure you purchased their vehicles, let them be responsible.

My parents did that with me 40 years ago. They bought me a Supra, it was in my name, which I had a job and paid my own insurance.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 7:59 am
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37886 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Umbrella policy FTW


This.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49617 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:56 am to
quote:

I’m in Louisiana, but my kids are adults now, that’s my question, am I still on the hook since the cars are in my name.


Yes
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14777 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:58 am to
If you have insurance, you are not paying out of pocket for your defense lawyer.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9213 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Once they’re legal adults your no longer liable for them unless you have a negligent entrustment issue. which is more than just giving your kids who’s been in 3 accidents a car.


This is wrong. If your name is on the tittle and/or you are a named insured on the policy, you can be sued because you have a financial stake in the vehicle that they were driving.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
Member since Nov 2012
2666 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:05 am to
Your insurance policy will triggered and your rates will go up. You could be found liable for negligently entrusting your vehicle to someone who should not be driving. You could be found liable for the negligence of your kids if they are working for you at the time of the accident or even if they usually drive for you, you have some risk. This is not legal advice and I am not your attorney. I’m not even an attorney.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31973 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Once they’re legal adults your no longer liable for them unless you have a negligent entrustment issue.


Nope, that car is in the parents name, they can sue them for sure….

It’s like co-signing a loan, just because you’re a legal adult, and default on a loan, guess who’s responsible for the bill?
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4595 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:26 am to
Aren’t 401ks shielded from seizure?
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
5201 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:27 am to
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Unless there was tort reform I don't know about, in Louisiana they can and most certainly will come after you if Gordon has anything to do with it.


No No No they can’t “come after you” because your adult kid effed up. And even if they did it gets thrown out of court… and it has nothing to do with tort reform…. That has been the Black Letter Law forever.

Just teach you kids to drive safe, not be distracted, don’t drive drunk and if they make a mistake and hurt someone be accountable and have adequate insurance. It isn’t hard to be a good person, y’know.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5868 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:37 am to
Good question. I know I am liable for their damn parking tickets.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78188 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:42 am to
Co-signing a loan isn’t a negligence liability thing.

It’s a contractual agreement to pay the loan off.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5097 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:48 am to
Need to add an umbrella policy to your current set up if you don’t already have one. When we got one with our home and auto bundled, the additional $1 million in coverage was maybe an additional $9 a month.

ETA: included in the umbrella policy also comes State Farm attorneys should we find ourselves in some sort of legal issue. They can and will come after your 401k and any assets in a worst case scenario.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 8:59 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:59 am to
Insurance, assuming no coverage exclusion, would pay attorneys and liability up to the limits of the policy. You are generally not on the hook for the negligent acts of your kids in their operation of the vehicle. However, there are some exceptions. For example, you being the owner of the vehicle involved in an injury causing accident opens up the possibility/likelihood that you could be named as a defendant under a theory of negligent entrustment. Insurance likely will still cover defense and judgment/settlement up to the limits of the policy. Your tchokes are likely only to be at risk if the liability exceeds the insurance limits.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 9:01 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52174 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:05 am to
Wrong.

Just plain out, fricking wrong.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:05 am to
quote:

What does this even mean?



My apologies for confusing you...

If someone you hit sues you, they'll likely hire an attorney based on contingency. That means they wont have to put up a dime.
You on the other hand will have to hire an attorney to defend yourself and pay for it.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
54815 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:

I would advise to have them insured on their own insurance policy in their name source I am an insurance agent
this and an umbrella policy. Some companies require you to carry max car policy limits before they will write an umbrella.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14777 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

You on the other hand will have to hire an attorney to defend yourself and pay for it.
Not. If. You. Have. Insurance.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14777 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:17 am to
quote:

If your name is on the tittle and/or you are a named insured on the policy, you can be sued because you have a financial stake in the vehicle that they were driving.
OP, please don't listen to this.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9213 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:22 am to
quote:

OP, please don't listen to this.


You don’t think that if you are a named insured on a policy then you can be sued? Well that’s a new one.

I literally see it every single day in my line of work.

Injury attorneys will also pull title records for vehicles and name all owners in their suits. They are looking for the deepest pockets.

If the policy has low limits they can and will file suit against the titled owners of the vehicle.

Edit: I work in accident reconstruction and literally see this situation every other week where the titled owner is a named defendant (whether or not they were driving the car or even on the policy).
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 9:26 am
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14777 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:30 am to
quote:

You don’t think that if you are a named insured on a policy then you can be sued? Well that’s a new one.
You can be sued for anything, that isn't the relevant question. Tell me how the owner of a vehicle is negligent for permissively allowing another adult to drive their car.

Your insurance company will pay, of course, because they are contractually obligated to. Your permissive driver becomes a "named insured" under the terms of the policy.

But as the owner, what is the basis of your individual liability that could subject you to an excess judgment? There isn't any. (Absent a claim of negligent entrustment, which is uncommon and difficult to prove). Your comment said that someone is liable for negligence simply by owning a vehicle and you are wrong about that.
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