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re: Operation Warp Speed Aimed at Covid and Hit Cancer

Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:24 am to
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:24 am to
Exactly.

As you know, clinical trial subjects are evaluated thoroughly, and all medical and physical data is recorded and presented in the trial results.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:26 am to
Um, that's not at all what the article suggests...
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:45 am to
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So you disagree with the facts of the article?

I don’t trust the methodology or the conclusions because of the source.

I don’t want to get into details, but I’m acutely aware of how these publications work. This woman is being paid to find something positive to say about this class of therapy by a company who sells a drug which would benefit from a suggestion that off label use for cancer treatment would result in positive outcomes for patients even if the data is being selectively chosen to give that impression.

Look into how the medical journal industry works. It’ll be eye opening.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:46 am to
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That may sound ambitious, but it’s backed by compelling new data. Researchers at the University of Texas’ MD Anderson Cancer Center and the University of Florida have found that patients with non-small-cell lung cancer who received an mRNA Covid vaccine within 100 days of beginning immune checkpoint inhibitors had a median overall survival of 37.3 months—nearly double that of patients who didn’t receive the vaccine. Does the actual data sound biased to you?


So what is the study showing how Covid shots attack the body's ability to produce white blood cells.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:51 am to
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I'm not sure I understand this logic. "The people who work on cancer and vaccines can't be trusted to give us information on cancer and vaccines." So who do we listen to? Our cousin who works at the plants and posts about the vaccines on Facebook?

We can’t trust anything at this point because the expert class has been completely subverted by industry sponsorships under a myriad of names and the media is being paid via ad buys to carefully gatekeep any criticism.

Could there be a substantive benefit for some patients? It’s possible.

There’s also solid data that would indicate serious risks from a cancer recurrence and blood clot perspective that also needs to be fully explored as is happening at the revamped FDA as we speak.

Either way I’m sure as hell not taking the word of a woman who has extensive ties to pharma and whose entire career and grant funding is predicated on the viability of mRNA tech to treat and prevent diseases.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:56 am to
Smokescreen...quit being idiots. They are trying to figure a way to make you WANT the jab
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:58 am to
Well if not a cancer researcher who do you think would write a piece about cancer research?

Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:04 am to
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So what is the study showing how Covid shots attack the body's ability to produce white blood cells.


Don't make declarative statements when you have no idea what is says.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:06 am to
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Smokescreen...quit being idiots. They are trying to figure a way to make you WANT the jab


If you are a cancer patient taking or planning to take ICIs then it is something to consider. Beyond that the study gives no reason anyone should WANT to take the vaccines for anything cancer-related.
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:10 am to
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In preclinical models, SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines led to a substantial increase in type I interferon, enabling innate immune cells to prime CD8+ T cells that target tumour-associated antigens.
just what I suspected.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:20 am to
They are trying to change the narrative. They still only want others to take the damn poison. Its a drug manufacturer play.
They'll keep doing this shite to save their business.
There are way way more promising cancer studies, but there will never be a cure allowed...that would take 100s of billions out of the medical field
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:34 am to
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Immune checkpoint inhibitors (ICIs) extend survival in many patients with cancer but are ineffective in patients without pre-existing immunity1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. Although personalized mRNA cancer vaccines sensitize tumours to ICIs by directing immune attacks against preselected antigens, personalized vaccines are limited by complex and time-intensive manufacturing processes10,11,12,13,14. Here we show that mRNA vaccines targeting SARS-CoV-2 also sensitize tumours to ICIs. In preclinical models, SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines led to a substantial increase in type I interferon, enabling innate immune cells to prime CD8+ T cells that target tumour-associated antigens. Concomitant ICI treatment is required for maximal efficacy in immunologically cold tumours, which respond by increasing PD-L1 expression. Similar correlates of vaccination response are found in humans, including increases in type I interferon, myeloid–lymphoid activation in healthy volunteers and PD-L1 expression on tumours. Moreover, receipt of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines within 100 days of initiating ICI is associated with significantly improved median and three-year overall survival in multiple large retrospective cohorts. This benefit is similar among patients with immunologically cold tumours. Together, these results demonstrate that clinically available mRNA vaccines targeting non-tumour-related antigens are potent immune modulators capable of sensitizing tumours to ICIs.


Good news.

That also goes against what they promised when forcing people to take said vaccine.
Posted by deltadummy
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:19 am to
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Well if not a cancer researcher who do you think would write a piece about cancer research?


Easy, there. OP only has 3 brain cells and doesn't want to strain anything.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:25 pm to
Whoa.

There is a difference between falsely promoting a vaccine or shoving it down everyone's throats and actually doing research on mRNA vaccines.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:43 pm to
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That also goes against what they promised when forcing people to take said vaccine.


Can you expound on that?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:12 pm to
I thought that soft tissue cancer rates had risen precipitously with the advent of the shots. I know four women in a small population vaccinated and now suffering from several forms of cancer.

Who knew the shots were the cure?
Posted by gmac8604
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:17 pm to
If it lowers one type of cancer, why dont they include data from other cancer types? Cancer is a broad term for abnormal cellular growth. Be interesting if it caused some to decrease and others to increase.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:50 pm to
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If it lowers one type of cancer, why dont they include data from other cancer types? Cancer is a broad term for abnormal cellular growth. Be interesting if it caused some to decrease and others to increase.


This has NOTHING to do with increasing or decreasing cancer rates. In this case the vaccines increase the efficacy of ICI therapy. The body has immune checkpoints to prevent the immune system from attacking healthy cells this happens by, for example, PD-1 and PD-L1 proteins binding. Cancer tumors often hide behind those shields. One of the treatments for numorous cancers is ICI (immune checkpoint inhibitors). They block the binding of the proteins that prevent the T cells from attacking tumors. Serendipitously, the COVID vaccine makes the ICIs more effective in certain groups of people.

It is important to understand nothing here is suggesting the mRNA COVID vaccines prevent or treat cancer directly. It just happens to remove the naturally occurring shield our body has to protect its healthy cells from its own immune system. While that on the surface sounds bad it opens the door for the T-cells to attack the tumors that have adapted to hide behind this shield. It is simply making ICI therapy more effective in people that it didn't help before.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:20 pm to
Any data to support that?
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