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re: On May 16th, I think Restaurants will have to charge a “dine in fee”
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:22 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:22 pm to Fun Bunch
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It’s the only way they can open with a 25% occupancy.
Have been thinking the same thing. Restaurants fail at a crazy high rate. Now we are asking them to potentially turn down customers?
The better question is, will this make one lick of difference?
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:26 pm to Mr Wonderful
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They’ll just stay closed.
I talked to a couple restaurant owners in Nashville about potential 50% restrictions and they said that would be WAYYY better than nothing.
You don't hire everyone back, you tweak your supply chain/inventory to match, etc.
They make most of their margin on alcohol and having people dining in and ordering drinks is definitely better than nothing. I don't get why people are saying this is basically nothing, it is definitely better than nothing and most places will re-open under restrictions.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:27 pm to Fun Bunch
Restaurants can’t make it without volume. 25% occupancy is absolutely a financial disaster - no way to spin it for anyone without drive-thru ops or efficient take-out. Operational overhead requires significant revenue to break even.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:27 pm to TheCaterpillar
50% is doable.
25 isn’t for most places.
25 isn’t for most places.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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will have to pay more to staff because the staff members are making more on unemployment.
You just hire back a skeleton crew. You don't hire everyone back with 25% of the tables open, you hire back 25% of the people to match and get 25% of the inventory.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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50% is doable.
25 isn’t for most places.
That's fair, I didn't ask about 25%.
They basically said they were just going to make a ton of drink specials because they needed to sell booze to make their nut.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:29 pm to Fun Bunch
You know VAT is essentially sales tax? Has nothing to do with restaurants and dining in.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:29 pm to Fun Bunch
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This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You just hire back a skeleton crew. You don't hire everyone back with 25% of the tables open, you hire back 25% of the people to match and get 25% of the inventory.
That’s cool, do you not have to pay rent or utilities for the 75% of your space that you don’t use?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:32 pm to gatorhater08
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That’s cool, do you not have to pay rent or utilities for the 75% of your space that you don’t use?
Are they not currently with zero revenue?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:34 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:what about rent and utilities? Not a chance most restaurants can pull that off at 25%.
You just hire back a skeleton crew. You don't hire everyone back with 25% of the tables open, you hire back 25% of the people to match and get 25% of the inventory.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:36 pm to OceanMan
I would propose a break from the government on down.
No property tax on commercial property with active tenants forced to shut down or operate at reduced capacity by government order, for the duration of that order.
Rent relief by commercial land owners to tenants for the same period (I.e pass down the property tax relief).
No property tax on commercial property with active tenants forced to shut down or operate at reduced capacity by government order, for the duration of that order.
Rent relief by commercial land owners to tenants for the same period (I.e pass down the property tax relief).
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:38 pm to Fun Bunch
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Many restaurants will just not be able to operate at 25% occupancy, especially because they may have to pay non-tip workers far more because they are making more staying on unemployment.
if you have the option of going back to work then you are supposed to come off unemployment if you decline to come back to work.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:39 pm to DustyDinkleman
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A lot of restaurants in Italy do that. Tips are not expected. Of course, their wait staff probably makes above min wage too
America needs to go this route.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You just hire back a skeleton crew. You don't hire everyone back with 25% of the tables open, you hire back 25% of the people to match and get 25% of the inventory.
The problem is that you still have to pay 100% of the lease, the electricity, the water, the gas bill...
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:55 pm to Icansee4miles
Getting what they paid for in this joke government
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:22 pm to Fun Bunch
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Or you can choose not to pay the cover.
Exactly.
I’m not in the restaurant business so maybe this is ignorant, but if establishments are only allowed 25% of occupancy, can’t you just employee 25% of the waitstaff? If the kitchen and utilities are already running for take-out, what other expenses would be needed?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:26 pm to notiger1997
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even May 16th?
A bar? Probably not. I’d guess they will be later and start pretty darn restricted.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:29 pm to NoSaint
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:30 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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The problem is that you still have to pay 100% of the lease, the electricity, the water, the gas bill...
And restaurants make a lot of their money on booze. Not many people are getting that to-go and paying that markup just to go drink it at home. 25% capacity isn't sustainable for long for most of them I'd guess.
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