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re: Oliver North Says Ritalin Is Part Of The Gun Violence Problem

Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:14 pm to
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The randomness is what I can't understand. So callous, especially given the effort put in with planning. A sane person who gets pissed off would calm down and catch their shite before carrying it out, it seems.

I know this is kind of cliche but I went to Central Private for most of my schooling and we absolutely had guns on gun racks in trucks in the student parking lot most of the year. It wasn't a big deal and we didn't think that it was odd or worry about anyone using them.

If you had a problem with somebody than you checked their knuckles. Something has changed.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:16 pm to
that and trench coats seem to be a common denominator
Posted by GeorgeQGlass
Austin
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
I tend to agree and said this with the last school shooting.

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Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:19 pm to
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I know this is kind of chiche but I went to Central Private for most of my schooling and we absolutely had guns on gun racks in trucks in the student parking lot most of the year. It wasn't a big deal and we didn't think that it was odd or worry about anyone using them.

If you had a problem with somebody than you checked their knuckles. Something has changed.
I can go along with that.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:25 pm to
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I think you cannot overestimate how movies and video games have subjected kids to gruesome, unmitigated violence. They teach kids that it's cool to blow dozens of people/creatures away at a time in a most gory way.


This is just my opinion of course, but I think the movies and video games thing is an excuse.

I can understand how someone with mental illness can see these things and decide to emulate something they see in a movie or on a video game, but it doesn't cause people to do these things.

As a kid I use to watch Rambo, Die Hard, Terminator, Commando.. All the movies people born in the late 70s, early 80s grew up watching.. I played duck hunter, contra, etc on nintendo and not one time did I ever think "I really want to do this stuff. I bet it would be cool to go out and blow up a bunch of people and shoot them". There were a lot of other kids playing and watching those games and movies who didn't go out and do crazy shite just because they saw it on TV.

I honestly think the bigger problem, is that there are more kids today, whose mother was taking drugs (not like marijuana, I am talking about pain pills, heroin, crack, maybe even depression meds) at some point when they were pregnant for them and that had to impact their development.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:26 pm to
Sure, part of the problem along with a thousand other things.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:29 pm to
Let's limit the guns AND the medication? These two things are not mutually exclusive.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:33 pm to
My daughter is 11 and knows how to operate an AR. She's been raised around firearms and has an understanding of what they can do. I 100% trust that she wouldn't touch them without dad around.

I don't however trust her friends so I have a 500 lb Liberty safe in my office and a biometric handgun safe in my nightstand to keep them away from kids.

We grew up with guns all over the house. If you touched them that meant your arse. Different times I guess.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:34 pm to
Maybe? That said, it isn't just one thing. It's a combination:

-Mental illness
-Prescription medicine
-Shitty, decrepit excuses for "parents"
-No parents
-Desensitized to violence due to movies, active shooter games.
-Social media

Most of these the average human can handle. However, a certain imbalanced nut-job can't cope with more than a few of these categories and loses it.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:34 pm to
Everyone with an agenda will point to the direction they WANT to blame for the problems.

The real answer lies within the home. I have yet to hear of one example of a shooter that had a good father in his home.

Not just a person with XY chromosomes. But a man who loves God, respects others, works hard, shows humility, and serves the people around him.

Shooters don’t shoot because of biology or chemistry or environmental exposures.

Shooters shoot because they were never shown love and how to love others.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:38 pm to
Can both sides just stop with all the excuses? These things can't be stopped. There will always be evil in the world.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:40 pm to
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overmedication


Is quickly trying to pass rampant obesity as America's number one shite arse parent problem
Posted by TigerJeff
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:41 pm to
on the top of his head
Posted by LSUwag
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:43 pm to
I’ve been saying this for quite a while. I’ve worked in Criminal Justice for 28 years and there is definitely a correlation between adult psychosis and the over use of psychotropic medications on adolescents. It appears to be increasing in recent years as the the generation who has been most prescribed is maturing.

Just my .02 with no studies to support my observations.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:49 pm to
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something has changed.


I think meds, binge playing shoot em up games, and the lack of discipline and/or lack of reporting of suspicious behavior in schools play a big roll. A lot of times the teachers hands are tied and even if they report behaviors, the administrations don't follow up. Many factors play into that and it's a complicated issued for sure.
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:23 pm to
The generation that grew up on first person shooters is far less violent than the one that grew up on Howdy Doody
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:31 pm to
Over prescription of children is only a symptom of shitty parents who would rather dope little Johnny up rather than discipline him...... PC message that everyone is special and is a winner and then when Johnny’s bubble is burst by the real world they don’t know how to handle failure..... too much sex and violence in media and kids brain development is severely damage, specifically the prefrontal cortex that meters emotions
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1242 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
I think there are multiple variables at play that are causing the rise in school shootings, but I do think overmedicating kids so young in life is part of it. A lot of the issues start at home, and when the kids are medicated through most of their growing years it really puts earmuffs over their heads. It really boils down to these kids aren't coping with every day life like they need to be. I graduated HS in '06 and I would say I was on the very edge of kids growing up with values that prepare them for life and I was fortunate because I was mostly raised by my Korean war-generation grandparents.

So many younger kids are being pampered and catered to, with the parents a lot of times also having been pampered to a lesser extent when they were young. You see parents getting rid of winning and losing all together, which are equally important cornerstones to any growing child, and simply awarding everyone.

The end result is a kid experiencing serious cognitive dissonance later in life, in which they can't reconcile with themselves, so they externalize it in the form of a school shooting.

EDIT: wasn't Oliver North the cock who outed Barry Seal back in the 80's?
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 3:42 pm
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