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re: Old baw in Slidell overdosed, EMS gives Narcan to save his life

Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10301 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:30 pm to


quote:


no, it seems unaware or uneducated about what actually drug addiction entails... your comments read like a D.A.R.E pamphlet, and there's NOTHING that could be further from the actuality of drug addiction than the generic, over simplistic message you are posting


I am married to an alcoholic and I am very aware and knowledgeable of the adiction process.

my start was a legit prescription for Vicodin ES[/quote]

What was the reason for the Vicodin prescription? How long did you take it? Regardless, often those who want to use drugs will make the decision to continue usage under the guise of getting a compliant doctor to continue prescribing " legit " drugs. There is a point in time when you and every othre addict knew better and elected to continue your drug usage.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:32 pm to
Plus those public service messages probably couldn't be too very informative inasmuch as preparing one for, say, the sudden death of a child or other close person, or say perhaps at some point in one's life they fall prey to physical/sexual abuse and maybe they just don't take it as well as some of the tough guys out there. Etc etc etc etc etc.
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Self-destructive behavior, like addiction, is far from a victimless crime


You are truly clueless GEAUXT

Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23603 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

What was the reason for the Vicodin prescription? How long did you take it? Regardless, often those who want to use drugs will make the decision to continue usage under the guise of getting a compliant doctor to continue prescribing " legit " drugs. There is a point in time when you and every othre addict knew better and elected to continue your drug usage.


strep throat...10 days... and yes, I did make a decision to continue taking it, like I said, because not taking it led to withdrawals... and that shite sucks, so knowing if I continue taking it I won't be dopesick, or if I quit taking it, I'll feel like I'm dying, its a pretty simple choice for a 19 year old in college...

and look, I'm not saying I made the RIGHT choice, or that I should be pitied b/c of what happened, or that I should be commended for turning it around... none of that... I'm just saying that people should try to get the context and try to gain more understanding of what drug addiction ACTUALLY is, rather than just looking at it simply as an avoidable action... sometimes, it's actually not.... I've had plenty of people, either as peers in the rooms, or as patients, who got bad off from legit health problems, started with legit scripts, and then shite got out of hand, whether intentional or not.... like I said, it's not always cut and dry, and as simple as some would like to make it... it's a complex issue, that should be treated as such, because at the end of the day, addict or not, you NEVER know how big.a cross everyone else has to bear...
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27517 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:41 pm to
Cheap sins can have high price tags.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I am married to an alcoholic and I am very aware and knowledgeable


In my personal experience addictions to alcohol and pain pills are both dangerous both not the same, at least for me. If I could take a pain pill I would but my brain didn’t crave it like it does alcohol, maybe I just got lucky, not the same with alcohol though.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10301 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:45 pm to
[quote]I hope you never get into a chronic pain situation where you need medication for a long time. I have seen this take down some very strong, well established people.[/quote

" Chronic pain " is just an excuse for submitting to personal weakness. Often chronic pain victims are people who were in an accident and manipulated by the personal injury system by unscrupulous attorneys and doctors. It was to the attorneys benefit to create the largest claim possible ,aided and abetted by doctors who were willing to slant the medical record and buttress it with prescriptions.

There are other instances where the inability to deal with life is masked by " chronic pain " complaints and the ever compliant doctor who writes the prescription.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23603 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

" Chronic pain " is just an excuse for submitting to personalweakness. Often chronic pain victims are people who were inanaccident and manipulated by the personal injury system by unscrupulous attorneys and doctors. It was tothe atorneys benefit to create the largest claim possible ,aided and abetted by doctors who were willing to slant the medical record and buttres sit with prescriptions.

There are other instances where the inability to deal with life is masked by " chronic pain " complaints and the ever compliant doctor who writes the prescription.



as a medical profession, I will admit this does happen sometimes... but it's hardly the norm... whether you'd like to believe it or not, chronic pain IS a legit medical condition, and unfortunately, as of right now, we don't have anything better than opiates to medically treat these patients... and no, nowadays, there are NOT many "pill mills" around... sadly enough, though, the damage that those pill mills did is still being seen today... again, context and understanding of what's ACTUALLY happening would go a long, long way...
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47501 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:52 pm to
I'll have what he's having.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29166 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

strep throat...10 days... and yes, I did make a decision to continue taking it, like I said, because not taking it led to withdrawals... and that shite sucks, so knowing if I continue taking it I won't be dopesick, or if I quit taking it, I'll feel like I'm dying, its a pretty simple choice for a 19 year old in college...



WD's from ten days of Vicodin??
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4594 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:44 pm to
Where was 5-0? The other guy looked like he could have snapped at any second.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57483 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Speedballs are a big cause of OD.


Not really, fent is the real killer these days. Heroin addicts aren’t spending heroin money on coke, it all goes to the downers.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57483 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:57 pm to
That’s a pretty frightening take for someone with “medic” in their username
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 2:09 pm to
You steal a life from The Reaper and you owe a life.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12387 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Swamproot


Great post and sorry for your loss.

The people that laugh and speak in jest and so callously about drug addicts should be careful. It will hit them close to home one day, maybe even them personally. Break a back, take painkillers, get addicted and end up needing that narcan when they inevitably turn to heroin to get "well" and od. Opioid deaths have surpassed fricking car accidents In many places in total deaths per year but it's just the bottom of society doing drugs according to them. No, its mothers, sisters and daughters, fathers, brothers and sons falling victim to this epidemic. Many on the top rungs of society.
These judgmental folks are no different from the liberals they complain about daily with this line of thinking. Preconceived notions with no actual knowledge of what they speak. Karma is a bitch my friends. This epidemic will hit home to all of us eventually, even those that think they live above it.
Posted by Woobie
Member since Jan 2017
2820 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

A $1500 hooker in Vegas


Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68462 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 3:02 pm to
So why do people get hooked on this?

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 3:02 pm to
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quote:
chRxis


I am glad you were able to overcome your addiction and make a life for yourself.

However, statistically speaking, are these gentlemen in the video more likely to cure cancer OR steal/injur/murder for drug money or kill someone driving under the influence?


Are you more likely to cure cancer or kill someone driving?
Posted by Cajun Tide
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2008
494 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 5:03 pm to
Getting dopesick as you call it after 10 days is not believable. I've been on opioids for more than 15 years for a genetic disorder that will never go away. I would understand 3 months, a year maybe but 10 days is a copout for sure
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62788 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 5:16 pm to
How many narcan recoveries have gone on to live productive lives?
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