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re: Old baw in Slidell overdosed, EMS gives Narcan to save his life

Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:57 am to
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:57 am to
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Most of the public has no idea of what happens to the addicted. I didn't until it took my 25 year old granddaughters life. She was beautiful and well educated and fought addiction for 7 years. If you have never seen this up close you cant possibly understand. I will feel her pain the rest of my life

as a recovering addict, a father, and a medical professional, I'm very sorry for your loss... and you are right... unless you've gone through it, or been very close to someone who has, you really can't comprehend all the in's and out's that is addiction... it's not quite as simple as "just quit" or "don't start", etc... wish more people would have at least a little empathy or compassion for those struggling, b/c not all of us are homeless, government assisted, etc... some of us are hidden in pain sight, and you have no idea when interacting with us the struggle that we are going through, yet here we are...
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:58 am to
The windshield wipers just merrily swishing back and forth are the best background for the 'dancing' friend.
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:58 am to
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Why administer the Narcan? Just let them die.


Agree 100%
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:02 am to
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Why administer the Narcan? Just let them die.


Agree 100%

b/c at the end of the day, it's still a human life we are talking about... they may be at rock bottom, but you know, sometimes rock bottom is the exact foundation that you need, in which, to build the best life, going forward... it's amazing to me how dismissive some people can be in regards to human life... it's pretty sad to know just how little value, no matter what, some people can be when it comes to an actual human life...
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:03 am to
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Swamproot


I can't fathom your pain. I also can't fathom the regret that you must have knowing that you couldn't save her after being addicted for seven years. I assume that your family knew about the addiction for about that long.

My point steers more to public involvement in saving that particular life. If an accident happens, then EMS shows up to help save someone. I don't think that taking a heavy drug is an accident.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:03 am to
do you have any experience with psychedelics?
much research finally getting done on LSD and psilocybin as a treatment for severe chemical addiction
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:07 am to
Addiction and depression as well. Smoking even. It's the next big thing. Or it should be at least.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:10 am to
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do you have any experience with psychedelics?
nah... I've been clean for over 7 years... I'm not in active addiction anymore, but I'll always consider myself an addict, b/c given the choice along with no consequence, I'd more than likely start using again....

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LSD

microdosing is very beneficial for PTSD, as well, as research is indicating.... however, getting it rescheduled from CI to CII or III would be unfathomable at this point... hell, it's only now that legislation is in favor of marijuana, and it's health benefits have been known for decades...
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psilocybin

not very familiar with it, especially as a treatment, but I know it also has it's own risk, so I'd be a little leery of it's use, but then again, like I said, I'm not all that familiar with it to take a stance on it right this moment
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:11 am to
well smoking is a chemical addiction...to nicotine.
and depression is a symptom of chemical imbalance

better living thru chemistry has been the medical mantra since there was medicine. It’s far past time to delist cannabis and psychedelics and do the research freely and intensively
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:13 am to
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chRxis


I am glad you were able to overcome your addiction and make a life for yourself.

However, statistically speaking, are these gentlemen in the video more likely to cure cancer OR steal/injur/murder for drug money or kill someone driving under the influence?
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:14 am to
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It’s far past time to delist cannabis and psychedelics and do the research freely and intensively

removing it from a controlled substance will NEVER happen.... rescheduling it, however, can be possible, just have to have the research and PEER REVIEW to prove it (which is happening, for the most part), as well as forward thinking legislators, who don't ascribe to the "all drugs are only bad and not good in any way" bullshite...
Posted by phil good
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:18 am to
If you overdose in a public parking lot chances are you don’t give a shite who sees what.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:20 am to
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I am glad you were able to overcome your addiction and make a life for yourself.

I didn't overcome anything... I keep it in check... it's something that I DAILY have to make a decision about...

quote:

statistically speaking, are these gentlemen in the video more likely to cure cancer OR steal/injur/murder for drug money or kill someone driving under the influence?

I don't know... how much, statistically speaking, of a chance would you have given me, had you known my story? or some of the people who may have been worse off than I was, that are turning their lives around? the thing is you shouldn't just be so quick to be dismissive of a human life b/c you see a snippet of them at their lowest, b/c if so, you'll never know what could have been them at their best... what if you were judge on your "lowest" point in life? if people just said, frick that guy, he should just die and rid the world of his lowly self? life is more complex than simple binary decisions, based on momentary instances... you never know what good someone may be capable of, no matter the "bad" you perceive them to be...
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:21 am to
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well smoking is a chemical addiction...to nicotine.
and depression is a symptom of chemical imbalance

No doubt. Was just highlighting the fact that it's being used for things other than the "street drugs" and opiates and whatnot.

Completely agree about making it much easier to research cannabis and psychedelics. After years of little or mixed success with people trying other medications or treatments for various ailments, for many this could be the magic bullet.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:25 am to
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easier to research cannabis and psychedelics

getting approval to research it, actually isn't that hard... being able to get it into the public's hands, now that's a whole 'nother story...
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:26 am to
and people here try and tell me st tammany isn't trashy af
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:26 am to
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you shouldn't just be so quick to be dismissive of a human life b/c you see a snippet of them at their lowest, b/c if so, you'll never know what could have been them at their best


I didn't realize you were a fb housewife

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what if you were judge on your "lowest" point in life?


My lowest point in life comes no where close to ODing in a parking lot midday, judge away
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:31 am to
can someone explain this:

i see videos like this, and read stories about people ODing in parking lots... were they planning on just passing out in the car in the parking lot, get fricked up and drive home, or what? is it just that much stronger that they had expected?

i always assumed nodding off was the goal when you did heroin. is that not the case?
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:34 am to
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being able to get it into the public's hands, now that's a whole 'nother story...

I believe they call the instrument to make this happen a “prescription” LOL. And that can’t happen with these drugs on the schedule is what everyone always says

and yet...opium is a schedule II narcotic. All that has to happen is that LSD, cannabis and psilocybin be dropped to schedule II. To say those three have no medicinal use at this point is willful malice
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:34 am to
Yeah the overall concept has a ways to go, but it may not be an overstatement to say this may have at least as much potential to positively affect society as anything else out there being researched in the medical realm. Especially for depression which seems to be such a pervasive problem and probably getting worse.
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