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re: Oil producers in a ‘dire situation’ and unable to ramp output, says Oxy CEO

Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:58 pm to
Still needs to be blended with heavy to make it refinable and crude units not lose capacity for all the light ends coming out of it
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9660 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:58 pm to



Got a world scale pipe plant in Portland texas, run for a month and mothballed the last 3 years.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Maybe not, but removing ESG activist investors from bank and private capital boards and allowing the banks to invest in and bank with O&G companies certainly would



Private capital will flow wherever the the F that it wants to. Bankers are going to lend to whomever falls within their risk appetite. Investment capital has to find people/corporations to buy O&G bonds.

Hedge funds, wall Street, private equity, and investment banks DGAF how or where they make money as long as it is legal or kinda legal... Or completely illegal. 10 million dollar fine for a billion in revenue is just built in operating expenses... Nobody loses their job, CEO gets paid for increasing rev, and people make a shitload of money especially board members.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 4:53 pm to
If EVs are to ever be driven by a majority of people, every state will need 2 new nuke plants. Anything else is pure folly.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73174 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 4:58 pm to
try again
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 5:04 pm to
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If EVs are to ever be driven by a majority of people, every state will need 2 new nuke plants. Anything else is pure folly.


If everyone had an EV we would need zero new plants, and we could actually stop having to fire up peaker plants if significant numbers have backfeed chargers.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2328 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Hedge funds, wall Street, private equity, and investment banks DGAF how or where they make money


not entirely true. If they are investing funds from say a pension or university they could have their hands tied a bit as to what industry they can invest in.

And I'll reiterate the supply chain is an issue. I work for a company that is heavily involved in supplying casing and tubing. Mill lead times are long right now, and all mills are sold out for future cycles. If you don't have an established mill/distributor relationship you're SOL for buying pipe.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 5:42 pm to
Isn't nuclear tech tremendously more safer than it was 40 years ago or however long ago they started building plants.

Maybe I should be freaking out like OMlandshark. Apathy for me about growing old and retiring as an OT Baller set in around 2008 maybe a little earlier.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22585 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 5:53 pm to
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I was mocked on the poliboard for years over peak oil proclamations. Funny that no one can turn the taps on supergiant fields right now and fix this.

I'm with you. I retired as an oil company E&P guy and I know how hard it is to increase production. Pipe dreams like Alaska or the deep water offshore GOM are years out from start of exploration until first production. And as the article stated it seems the Permian still has some room for activity to prevent the decline curve from sloping too steeply to the right. We are coming upon a critical juncture where we have to formulate a way to produce energy for our posterity for the generations to come.
Russia on the other hand does have excess production capacity.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1156 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:42 pm to
Ross
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streamline nuclear regulations and build nuclear power plants everywhere


Best post for long term solution. We and French have operated pressurized water nuclear reactors since the 60's with no major issues.

With updated and tech and standardized accepted designs to lessen regulation and stream line approval process. Yes I like one near my house. beats the alternatives like wind(not viable) or coal/gas.
Posted by bayoutiger225
Member since Nov 2009
472 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:27 pm to
Which one is this? Most of the Texas pipe mills are around Baytown, Bryan, Houston, etc.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:30 pm to
Just don’t give them to BP and I am good
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62567 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:34 pm to

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Private capital will flow wherever the the F that it wants to. Bankers are going to lend to whomever falls within their risk appetite.
It's not 2010 any more.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27461 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:40 pm to
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Private capital will flow wherever the the F that it wants to. Bankers are going to lend to whomever falls within their risk appetite.


Financial institutions and big investors are ate up with the ESG stuff these days.

And look, SOME of the ESG has a noble legitimacy, but it has gone way overboard, and now isn’t the time for intentionally restricting lending capital and investment to “dirty jobs”.

Hell, the “dirty jobs” players have acknowledged the need and have invested HEAVILY in reducing emissions like CO2, methane and other gasses. So there needs to be a reopening of financing to those industries, or else we better just learn to accept $5/gal gasoline and much, much higher prices for plastics and other “dirty job” products.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12640 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:41 pm to
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I don't even know what "energy independence" means anymore.

All we keep hearing is that oil is a global market. That it doesn't matter WHERE we get our oil from.

The truth is somewhere in between, as usual. Having strong domestic production/capacity protects you from trade spats or conflict that might cause prices to otherwise rise disproportionately in the US.

For example, if Russia simply said “sorry Americans, we aren’t exporting any more oil to your country” but continued their other exports as normal, we would be fine. We are much more prepared to manage, as another example, an Arab oil embargo against the US today than we were in the 70’s.

But strong domestic production doesn’t insulate you from global price swings. So while we may be fine if Russia’s exports to the US are cut off, that protection doesn’t really apply if all of Russia’s exports are cut off - because you can’t just remove ~10% of the world’s crude oil production without affecting the global market.
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The US imports AND exports oil. That's always been crazy to me. If we are trying to become "energy independent" why are we exporting any oil at all?

People think of oil as a singular commodity with a global price but that’s not really accurate. Oil varies wildly in composition between various fields/regions. Generally speaking, crude is broadly categorized on two scales: sulfur content (sweet=low sulfur, sour=high sulfur) and density/gravity (light vs. heavy crude). There are also many other factors such as TAN (acidity), but gravity and sulfur content are probably the most important for the sake of this discussion. US crude oils are generally categorized as light/sweet.

Major US refineries are mostly built out with the ability to process heavy, sour crudes. If they only run light crudes, the impact is twofold. First, they can’t utilize their conversion units (crackers, cokers, etc.) to full capacity, so they wind up with unused total capacity. Second, heavy crude generally trades at a discount - so if they only run light crudes they are paying more for feedstock than necessary. Consequently, they supplement with heavier oil from other countries (mostly Canada) to cash in on that discount and fully utilize their conversion units.

Think of it this way - you own a 300,000 bbl/d (nameplate capacity) US refinery and have 2 choices:

Option #1: Process 250,000 bbl/d of US crude at $100/bbl. Produce 250,000 bbl/d of refined products at $114/bbl.
- Input cost: $25MM/day
- Output revenue: $28.5MM/day
- Profit: $3.5MM/day (12% margin)
- 50,000 bbl/d of capacity effectively wasted

Option #2: Process 200,000 bbl/d of US crude at $100/bbl supplemented with 100,000 bbl/d of Canadian crude at $80/bbl. Produce 300,000 bbl/d of refined products at $114/bbl.
- Input cost: $28MM/day
- Output revenue: $34.2MM/day
- Profit: $6.2MM/day (18% margin)
- No capacity wasted

The numbers are mostly hypothetical but you get the idea. The end result of option #2 is a net positive for the US, even if we are producing more oil than we consume (e.g. “energy independent”), because the US is already exporting both crude oil and refined products. So that other 50,000 bbl/d of light/sweet American crude that didn’t get processed at the US refinery still sells elsewhere for $100/bbl. On top of that, a US refinery gets the benefit of buying discounted foreign (Canadian in this example) crude, upgrading it, and selling the finished product globally at the normal market price.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 8:15 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9567 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:43 pm to
All the Oxychem workers in AP love sucking Joe Biden's cock.

I dont get it.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1792 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:45 pm to
Ok. I don't believe her.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27461 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:52 pm to
Thank you.

This is a very complex issue. Personally, I’m good with an embargo on Russian oil to try to get Putin’s arse thrown out, but it isn’t as simple as just “Stop buying Russian oil and let our US companies drill baby drill!”
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:29 pm to
Did you see how quickly the climate and race hustlers jumped in when Ukraine was taking over the news? They immediately starting pumping out stories.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Personally, I’m good with an embargo on Russian oil to try to get Putin’s arse thrown out


China will just replace us as customer.
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