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Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:51 am
Should there be tempered optimism that these industries will be rejuvenated, or should we expect a real resurgence in the immediate future?

Personally interested, as I finance mining, construction, AG equipment in Kentucky and West Virginia.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:53 am to
Why? Are the oil and natural gas gluts suddenly going to disappear?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:53 am to
I think oil business will be reliant on market prices that are out of our control. Don't see how this election will change any of that.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:53 am to
quote:

tempered optimism


that one

more optimism for coal than O&G for sure

I suppose I could be wrong, but if I am can someone explain?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21022 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:54 am to
There seems to be a profound misunderstanding of basic economics on here. The price of oil has nothing to do with who is president.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15286 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:54 am to
Coal industry is happy as hell.

Hillary had them as target #1 in fossil fuel industry. She was caught on video claiming she was going to use her strap on, on them.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:54 am to
Honestly, you should probably get out of coal

I know he's said he's going to fight for it, but there's not much he can really do.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:58 am to
quote:

There seems to be a profound misunderstanding of basic economics on here. The price of oil has nothing to do with who is president.


Yeah, unless OPEC decides to cut production, this $45/bbl ain't gonna put any roughnecks back to work.
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:00 am to
The regulatory environment that would hold up projects that had already been permitted for political reasons should change, we will see how that affects things, and if we get to export LNG finally.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:00 am to
Coal really is not going to come back in any real fashion.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
197881 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:00 am to
Well you now have a POTUS and a White House /Various Fed Depts. that will not seek to vilify the industry.

Trump might not be a good friend of fossil fuels but he is definitely not an enemy.

Pipeline will be built that's a win
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13753 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:01 am to
The President could put a $10/barrell tariff on imported oil. That would increase the domestic price from $50 too $60 overnight. It would cost us another 20c per gallon at the pump, and it would eliminate 30 percent of our trade deficit while putting another 500,000 Americans to work. So, there's that.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1254 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:01 am to
Coals biggest enemy is Nat gas. Its simply too cheap and easy compared to coal.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 10:05 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Honestly, you should probably get out of coal


Not in it per se, but supply the mining businesses. There are some folks still turning out some huge tonnage each month. However, it is only a handful of mining companies compared to upwards of @ 65 or so less than 10 years ago.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3164 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:03 am to
The problem for coal is cheap natural gas. That isn't going to change any time soon.

Oil is and will remain dependent on world markets. As long as oil is cheap, the oil industry will not be "rejuvenated" unless they find a way to get it out of the ground more cheaply or otherwise bring down the cost of production.

There's nothing about the election results that will have any noticeable impact on either.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

The price of oil has nothing to do with who is president.
So the US President and his/her policies and implementation have zero affect on oil prices?
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6998 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Should there be tempered optimism that these industries will be rejuvenated, or should we expect a real resurgence in the immediate future?



The biggest thing about Trump winning is the stop on additional, crippling regulatory and environmental regulations and the hope that some existing regulations will be lessened or removed. You're not going to see a sudden surge in productivity since that is more economic driven, but removing, reducing and halting regulations will trickle down to contribute to long term industry stability.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:05 am to
quote:

The problem for coal is cheap natural gas. That isn't going to change any time soon.


This.

Coal might not have an enemy now and will survive a little bit longer, but the trends are not good regardless of who POTUS is.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:06 am to
quote:

The President could put a $10/barrell tariff on imported oil. That would increase the domestic price from $50 too $60 overnight. It would cost us another 20c per gallon at the pump, and it would eliminate 30 percent of our trade deficit while putting another 500,000 Americans to work. So, there's that.


Please explain.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38222 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I finance mining, construction, AG equipment in Kentucky and West Virginia.



and you came here for financial advice?



good luck in your next job.
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