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re: Oh, say can you see, By the dawn's ... STOP Central (BR) H.S. students! No Anthem!

Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:27 am to
Leaving aside the argument about whether they should have canceled the anthem or not. My question is why in the world would anyone think it’s a good idea to publicize it in advance? There’s no way you don’t anticipate the response from a community like Central. If you decide not to hve the anthem, you just don’t play it. It’s during the school day during a student pep rally. I would bet the kids wouldn’t even notice.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50268 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:27 am to
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No, there's not. A few incidents will always happen. These people are arguing that it's a systemic widespread overarching problem effecting everyone's lives. It's not. These incidents are statistically insignificant.


It isn't just killings...

I agree with your notions regarding stats/data, understand that.

This goes into overall use of force combined with militarization of police forces.

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The people with the voice to address those problems are too busy being morons.


Pretty much my first point. I knew we would agree eventually.

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Id argue overpaid and undereducated rich morons making inflammatory political statements is as American as baseball and apple pie.


Correct, just like our current POTUS.

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What are the facts of that case? A black cop just woke up one morning and decided to execute a kid and then drove into a neighborhood and chose a kid at random?


Dude. Come on. You were doing great with the exception of that part.
Posted by Psychoanalysis
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2017
125 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:31 am to
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This goes into overall use of force combined with militarization of police forces. 


A topic I think we agree on. Too much force and too much militarization is not a good thing. But that's the problem. The issue is militarization of police, understaffed and undereducated police forces, and their training and use of force. It's not with a specific segment of the police attacking a specific segment of the population. And if there is a segment of the police attacking a segment of the population that's a symptom of a problem. You have to solve the problem itself, not just treat the symptoms.


Do you see what I'm saying?

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You were doing great with the exception of that part.


?

I honestly am not familiar with that case you referred to? What were the facts? Was the kid shot during some kind of altercation with the parents? Was it a no-knock warrant gone BAD? Was it just a rogue lunatic police officer?

I wasn't implying anything, I don't know that case.

This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:48 am to
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Now will allow anthem

Looks like all you pussies bitching about it worked

Man, that school has no backbone if a bunch of angry rednecks forced them to cave on a safety concern
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:50 am to
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Spaulding Smails

Oh, Spaulding
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:02 pm to
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Man, that school has no backbone if a bunch of angry rednecks forced them to cave on a safety concern 

But it's fine to cancel it because of 3-4 douchebag students right?
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3597 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:02 pm to
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My question is why in the world would anyone think it’s a good idea to publicize it in advance?


It was probably unintentional. Someone heard about it and disagreed then leaked it to the media. Im glad they did.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:05 pm to
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But it's fine to cancel it because of 3-4 douchebag students right?

If there is a safety concern? Absolutely
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3597 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:07 pm to
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If there is a safety concern? Absolutely


... and what could be a safety concern in this instance?
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:11 pm to
A melee in a gym over who kneels and who stands...it's in central, so I'd imagine angry rednecks getting aggressive towards those exercising their freedom
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8673 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:12 pm to
Why are they singing/playing the national anthem at a pep rally anyway?
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1064 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:22 pm to
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A melee in a gym over who kneels and who stands...it's in central, so I'd imagine angry rednecks getting aggressive towards those exercising their freedom

True.

We should make sure people aren't allowed to say mean things too. Wouldn't want them to get hurt for exercising their rights. It's for their own good.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:26 pm to
Using force is different than saying words, no?
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3597 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:29 pm to
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A melee in a gym over who kneels and who stands...it's in central, so I'd imagine angry rednecks getting aggressive towards those exercising their freedom


Then that minority ought to consider the consequences before doing something like this, not the other way around.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32413 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:30 pm to
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The problem is that Trump spoke out about it.

That isn't the problem.

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they will associate the "standers" as Trump supporters and therefore, "racist."

This is the problem.

If you don't agree with me, you're racist, sexist, bigoted, etc., etc.

You can't argue with these buffoons, because they don't use logic and facts to argue. If you disagree with them they label you as some sort of bigot and disregard anything that you say. It's quite absurd.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Using force is different than saying words, no?

I know. I'm saying we should eliminate the possibility of words precipitating force and being proactive like you said. It's for their own good, really.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Then that minority ought to consider the consequences before doing something like this

The people putting on an anthem performance days after one of the most contentious national arguments of the year? They knew what they were asking for
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:36 pm to
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The people putting on an anthem performance days after one of the most contentious national arguments of the year? They knew what they were asking for

Yeah, those rape victims had it coming too.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:37 pm to
False equivalence...but you already knew that
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