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re: Oh no Pfizer bros. RFK just nuked MRNA vaccine development

Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39153 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:06 pm to
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You’re full of shite generally, but if you weren’t not being a liar would help you in this endeavor



How am I a liar specifically?
Posted by Fat Fingers
Member since Nov 2010
453 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:07 pm to
Educator? More like groomer.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:09 pm to
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Quote for us all the parts of the Constitution that establish a Federal Health duty in the first place. The nation survived for almost 200 years without any federal health service just fine.


Public health has always been a mostly elective quasi-governmental effort to keep citizens from contracting diseases. It focuses on prevention. Local public health departments are only as strong as the local, state and federal governments want them to be.

Some federal programs and some state programs are mandated to local public health agencies but there is no regular funding for local public health departments. It’s a patchwork, ad hoc mix of services based on the whims of local, state and federal demands and funding. The pandemic showed how poor and unequipped most health departments were.

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Then justify my tax dollars earned in La should be used for residents in another state which means that money is not available for La to be potentially self sufficient for health services.


I’m not the person you should ask to justify any use of taxpayer dollars. I am extremely anti-taxation. The amount of graft, fraud and corruption in this country is at an unbelievable level.



Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:10 pm to
I’m not a school teacher or a pastor, a-hole.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:13 pm to
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Or, flu cases just got labeled Covid.


Maybe. There was certainly a lot of corruption during the pandemic. However, it’s easy to tell the difference between influenza viruses and the coronaviruses in the lab and reported flu cases were down by an amazing number.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36176 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:17 pm to
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It focuses on prevention.


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36176 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:17 pm to
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I’m not a school teacher or a pastor, a-hole.


Why are you being so coy?
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
609 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:21 pm to
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That just isn’t the case. Even if it “escapes” the area of vaccination, it is broken down so quickly that it doesn’t have time to accumulate elsewhere. Billions of shots using mRNA have been distributed and it has the safest record for all types of vaccines.


The problem is you can post any of the data that you want but we can’t trust it. First it was the shot is 98% effective, then it was if you get covid you won’t spread it, then it was you won’t get hospitalized, then it was you won’t die, then it was well it may or may not do anything.


They had some funny numbers there in the beginning so how can we trust any of the data that is published?
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26074 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:22 pm to
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Medicine is for woke libtards. No one ever got cancer back when we were using leeches and balancing our humours. Really makes you think


What did the autopsies show was the cause of death when the leaches didn’t work?


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Yes, cancer existed in ancient times. Evidence of cancer has been found in ancient Egyptian mummies, fossilized bone tumors, and in ancient texts. The Edwin Smith Papyrus, dating back to ancient Egypt, even contains the earliest known written description of breast tumors.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 10:26 pm
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10072 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:30 pm to
MRNA technology has been around for awhile. I used it 15 years ago in PCR testing for pathogens.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39153 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:32 pm to
Hey little dude, how am I a liar again? Please be specific for once.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:42 pm to
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They had some funny numbers there in the beginning so how can we trust any of the data that is published?.


In my personal opinion, I think the entire world, save for a very few countries like Sweden, completely over-reacted to a novel coronavirus entering the population. There were already six other coronaviruses that have been common for eons and were no more bothersome than a typical rhinovirus cold virus. They had mutated to a far less strong cold virus, just as Covid is doing.

It was obvious that a new coronavirus would be much more dangerous to some segments of the population and it soon became clear that older adults and anyone with a compromised immune system would be at strong risk. It would also cause really bad colds in healthy people but nothing they couldn’t handle easily.

Some state health departments recommended to their governors that older adults and immunocompromised individuals of any age be protected. They recommended against shutting down the state and stopping its economy. Those recommendations were ignored at the federal level when passed on by the governors.

Instead, our federal agencies went crazy, treating this new coronavirus like it would be the end of the world. Anyone who understood viruses just watched in amazement at the circus that developed in the US. The rest of the world followed America’s lead as they always do and the circus went worldwide, except for Africa and a few other places that decided to just ignore it and let it run its course.

Corruption thrives in a panicked government and the rush to grab all the Covid dollars possible became frenzied. We may never know the true effect of the novel coronavirus that started in China. We do know that the reaction to it weakened our country’s economy to an extent that it changed our culture forever.

This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 10:49 pm
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1562 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:00 am to
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IMO mRNA vaccines are much more risky than “traditional” vaccines. Escaping injection site and provoking an immune response in and around vital organs is a real risk.


This is drivel.

crazy4 lsu, pfizerpride87
You two really should STFU since you proved you didn't know what you were talking about when SARS-CoV2 was in pandemic stages and you clearly are still drinking the koolaid now. Or too proud to acknowledge how wrong you were then and are now. What was stated, that crazy4lsu incorrectly called drivel, has been proven to be a scientific fact through multiple peer review publications starting well over a year ago. SARS-CoV2 spike protein (which induces inflammatory responses) mRNA fragments from the shots have been isolated from various other body sites, including cardiomyocytes, the muscle cells that make up the heart for those not aware.

I'm not here to argue with them but encourage everyone to do their own homework when it comes to their health. That said, everything RFJ said is correct about the difficulty in developing 'vaccines' for most upper respiratory viruses, particularly coronaviruses. 60 years of research and 1000's of scientific publications agreed that vaccine development for human coronavirus doesn't work.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39153 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:12 am to
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What was stated, that crazy4lsu incorrectly called drivel, has been proven to be a scientific fact through multiple peer review publications starting well over a year ago


Link them. Also you don't seem to understand why it is drivel.

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I'm not here to argue with them but encourage everyone to do their own homework when it comes to their health


The difference between you and I is that I am responsible for other people's health in addition to my own. I take it very seriously. No one is seeking out your opinion about anything my man.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3093 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:14 am to


LSU med was supposedly very involved in a MRNA vaccine that was very effective in eliminating pancreatic cancer.

Discrediting science is way more important than preventing a deadly cancer, especially if it can own the libs.


NIH Vaccine
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3093 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:15 am to
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I'm not here to argue with them but encourage everyone to do their own homework when it comes to their health


I do my own resurch crowd is still at it.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34458 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:18 am to
I disagree with this. Research needs to continue to be poured into it until MRNA is safe and available.

The problem was it was distributed before the technology had matured enough. It will never mature if we cancel research of it. fricking luddites.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13106 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:20 am to
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That just isn’t the case. Even if it “escapes” the area of vaccination, it is broken down so quickly that it doesn’t have time to accumulate elsewhere.
Ok, we get it the spike doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, because you said so.

And yep, it doesn't escape, because it was never contained. And young folks didn't get played because old folks bartered someone else's health away as pay for their dire fears.

Lipid particles (nano-in size) were precisely chosen because they don't get filtered, stopped, or denied entrance to the inside of our vast inside repository. They get an open door. And harboring something that couldn't was part of the design criteria. It simply didn't matter than much if something relatively benign got leaked somewhere else. Hopefully, maybe, no, some of us seem to not want to know.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29979 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:59 am to
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SARS-CoV2 spike protein (which induces inflammatory responses) mRNA fragments from the shots have been isolated from various other body sites


Can you restate that without the parenthetical phrase, it seems to be missing a word or words in order to be a dogent statement.
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2827 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 4:27 am to
It’s almost laughable that the number of people in this board do not understand or are not aware about how federal grants have improved their lives. Even though that La money goes to someone in a different state.

Here is a little example that may help: Let’s take the oil and gas boom of that last 15 years due to horizontal and stimulation of shale reservoirs. Much of the research that led to this was all DOE funding grants to research institutes that did the early heavy lifting to start the process. Without that investment and early work, we would not be where we are today. I would say that our state and country has fairer pretty well because of those early grants.
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