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Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:49 am to Jim Rockford
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Reading on another forum that the Australian air defense radar is rumored to see the entire southern Indian Ocean. If so, They may know what happened and be unwilling to publicize their capability.
I can understand why they wouldn't publicize anything, even if they do know. Some things, especially investigations, don't always need to be made public. I think that's why there has been a lot of false information released. And maybe I've read too many spy books.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 2:54 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:58 am to Jim Rockford
Kosher or not...I checked it out. 
Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:18 am to hikingfan
There's another missing airliner out there
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Seven years after her brother disappeared from Quatro de Fevereiro International Airport in Angola, Benita Padilla-Kirkland is trying to persuade the FBI to re-open his case. She believes she has the “new information” agents told her they require. But she suspects that the agency already has more information than agents will admit to.
Kirkland’s brother, Ben Charles Padilla, a certified flight engineer, aircraft mechanic, and private pilot, disappeared while working in the Angolan capital, Luanda, for Florida-based Aerospace Sales and Leasing. On May 25, 2003, shortly before sunset, Padilla boarded the company’s Boeing 727-223, tail number N844AA. With him was a helper he had recently hired, John Mikel Mutantu, from the Republic of the Congo. The two had been working with Angolan mechanics to return the 727 to flight-ready status so they could reclaim it from a business deal gone bad, but neither could fly it. Mutantu was not a pilot, and Padilla had only a private pilot’s license. A 727 ordinarily requires three trained aircrew.
According to press reports, the aircraft began taxiing with no communication between the crew and the tower; maneuvering erratically, it entered a runway without clearance. With its lights off and its transponder not transmitting, 844AA took off to the southwest, and headed out over the Atlantic Ocean. The 727 and the two men have not been seen since.
Who was flying 844AA? Had something happened to make Padilla take that desperate chance? Or was someone waiting inside the airplane? Leased to deliver diesel fuel to diamond mines, the 727 carried 10 500-gallon fuel tanks and a few passenger seats in its cabin. Less than two years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the 727’s freakish departure triggered a frantic search by U.S. security organizations for what intelligence sources said could have been a flying bomb.
Retired U.S. Marine General Mastin Robeson, commander of U.S. forces in the Horn of Africa when 844AA went missing, says word of the 727 “came up through the intelligence network.” According to Robeson, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) considered moving U.S. fighter aircraft to Djibouti on the Red Sea coast, where the Combined Joint Task Force shares a base with the French military. Robeson continues: “It was never [clear] whether it was stolen for insurance purposes…by the owners, or whether it was stolen with the intent to make it available to unsavory characters, or whether it was a deliberate concerted terrorist attempt. There was speculation of all three.”
Speculation that the theft of 844AA posed a terrorist threat ended, though it’s unclear why. Perhaps National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency technicians saw signs of a crash in satellite imagery—debris or an oil slick in the Atlantic, for example—or evidence that a large aircraft had landed on one of a half-dozen unpaved, 8,000-foot runways in the Congo, north of Angola. Agency spokesperson Susan Meisner would not comment, saying that the NGIA was not the lead agency in the case. (A CIA spokesperson also declined comment, as did a spokesperson from the Department of Homeland Security. FBI agents also refused comment, citing national security concerns.) Perhaps the speculation ended more gradually, after weeks without clues or sightings stretched into months. The disturbed hornet’s nest of a global security alert—the searches, bulletins, and interrogations—quieted, and in 2005, the FBI closed its case. I have filed Freedom of Information Act requests with the CIA and FBI and have followed in at least some of the FBI’s footsteps, interviewing the people who flew 844AA to Angola and worked with it there, hoping to understand how a 727 could just disappear.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:31 am to tidalmouse
Tidal - you got "end bracket" issues, brah.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:44 am to Ace Midnight
Update:
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Satellite data shows hijacked MH370 was last seen flying towards Pakistan OR Indian Ocean
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 6:47 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:57 am to TheDoc
Same shite, just a different day...
Feels like groundhog day. The same info gets repeated with slight changes.
Feels like groundhog day. The same info gets repeated with slight changes.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:20 am to Lsut81
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Same shite, just a different day... Feels like groundhog day. The same info gets repeated with slight changes.
This. I'm holding out for some breaking news.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:22 am to Lsut81
It's amazing to me that 8 days later, they don't seem any closer to knowing where that plane is, or even what direction it took.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:26 am to TheDoc
The only update is they just colored in the top section with pink marker
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:26 am to kywildcatfanone
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It's amazing to me that 8 days later, they don't seem any closer to knowing where that plane is, or even what direction it took.
Agree... But the Malaysian govt takes the blame for that. Their ineptness and failure to bring in help hampered this from day one.
frick, had they searched the pilots houses immediately after the disappearance (Im sure there are clues there) we could have been in today's spot, a week ago.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:31 am to Lsut81
Why are planes equipped so that pilots can turn off beacons and other tracking devices? I seem to remember that the 9/11 hijackers were able to turn those off. Why would a pilot be allowed to do that?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:34 am to kywildcatfanone
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Why are planes equipped so that pilots can turn off beacons and other tracking devices?
As I understand it, it is so when they get close to the airport, there are not hundreds of beacons going off.
Having said that, I don't see why there wouldn't be a feature that only allows them to be turned off below X number of feet
I think the Transponder and Depressurization being at the hands of the pilots whenever they deem fit should be immediately remedied after this incident.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:35 am to kywildcatfanone
When at an airport you have 100 or so planes on the ground it would be impossible to direct planes if each one had its transponder on even the ones at the gate
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:36 am to HeadBusta4LSU
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The only update is they just colored in the top section with pink marker
Not sure how accurate that "update" is. Last I heard was the Malaysians told India to stop searching the areas in the article.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:38 am to Lsut81
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I don't see why there wouldn't be a feature that only allows them to be turned off below X number of feet
Yes, or the ability for the ground to turn it back on and disable the pilots ability to turn it back off. Surely, they can do that with technology today.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:39 am to catholictigerfan
Need technology that clears up the ATC radar rather than turning the transponder off.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:43 am to Topwater Trout
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Need technology that clears up the ATC radar rather than turning the transponder off.
Or competent Air Traffic Controllers that know how to do their job correctly and can deal with a cluttered scope.
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