re: Obesity rates in the US have tripled in just one generation

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Crimson1st

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I see BMI was used as a basis BUT I highly caution this because it does not give consideration for body composition. Michael Jordan would have qualified as overweight/obese for example. The BMI chart uses raw numbers as they relate to height and weight. I would focus more on body fat percentage as being built well with a high muscle mass will wind up putting you sideways with the BMI and in turn have you classified in the wrong group. Also, I see I have a downvote from my observation already but I’m stating facts so suck on this whomever felt the need to do that.

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This right here is a perfect example of a person who is doing harm to our society and he should be shamed hard for it.

The movement by overweight/obese individuals to disregard BMI as being inaccurate and inapplicable is moronic on every level.

Shame on you Crimson1st for being a huge part of the problem.

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Oh, im aware. I just dont see another logical way around it if we really want to succeed at this. But i dont think we as a society do

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The way our society is currently, with its multitude of problems, the only way to fix the issues is a collapse to some degree.

Economic collapse resulting in the inability to purchase these unhealthy foods.

There is no motivation or other way to fix it.

It will require a massive shock to the system.

I don’t see any other way. We are too far gone.

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Just get back from Davos?

#greatreset

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I don’t want that outcome. Just stating my opinion.

There is no way to fix this.

Educating people clearly isn’t working.

We’ll just continue plodding along, short of breath, until it falls apart.

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80% of the obesity epidemic is due to HFCS.

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I think it's part of it but not 80%. Americans consume something like 50 pounds of HFCS a year. Australia and the UK both average less than a pound a year, per capita, and both countries are also fat as frick.

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This right here is a perfect example of a person who is doing harm to our society and he should be shamed hard for it. The movement by overweight/obese individuals to disregard BMI as being inaccurate and inapplicable is moronic on every level. Shame on you Crimson1st for being a huge part of the problem.

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Screw you! Not once did I say that obesity was not problematic nor did I make any representation other than the BMI is not a good measurement, in my opinion, of gauging obesity because it does not account for body composition. Maybe YOU should do some self reflection on potentially overstating the problem as that does just as much harm as what you are accusing me of doing(which I didn’t).

I was and am on several fitness sites, predating my time here by years, and this is a known flaw with the BMI. If you’re too dense to understand, let me explain…people have different body structures and compositions. Someone fit and who works out will have more muscle. Muscle weighs twice as much as fat. In this country we have many gyms and a lot of folks who would due to muscle mass errantly be considered obese by the BMI. This is a fact and no, as another poster mentioned, you don’t have to know DK Metcalf either. Sports nutrition has been enhanced over the years. There are spikes in size and strength in athletics and those who partake in weigh training. This needs to be factored into the equation and the BMI does not address this.

Most of this thread that I have read has been about asking why there was such a spike and yet I have seen little(admittedly I have only read about half) addressing the measurement methods. That’s all I am doing as anything the government or “officials “ puts out these days should be questioned. And again, I feel silly for having to repeat this but your type have to apparently be talked to like a child since you want to run with your misinterpretation of my post, I’m not saying there is not an obesity issue/problems but I absolutely refute the accuracy of the BMI.

Seed oils
HFCS in nearly everything.
Grain fed ruminant meats.
Video games that are also social connection sites. (Allows visiting your buddies online instead of going down the street to see him.)
Social acceptance, bordering on promotion of body positivity (fat people proud of being fat.)

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Economic collapse resulting in the inability to purchase these unhealthy foods.

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Or a massive war…. Which with the current administration, economic collapse and war are both possible

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Not once did I say that obesity was not problematic nor did I make any representation other than the BMI is not a good measurement, in my opinion, of gauging obesity because it does not account for body composition.

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BMI is perfectly applicable as a generalized standard for the vast majority of Americans, and that is where this entire argument falls apart.

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I was and am on several fitness sites, predating my time here by years, and this is a known flaw with the BMI. If you’re too dense to understand, let me explain…people have different body structures and compositions.

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It is a flaw when it comes to aggressively fit individuals where muscle mass becomes a predominant variable in the equation, which, again, is not applicable to the VAST majority of Americans.

It is a generalizable measurement.

If you are incredibly fit, it doesn’t work well for you, as we see when people refer to the NFL players.

It works for a significant portion of everyone else who isn’t fit.

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Most of this thread that I have read has been about asking why there was such a spike and yet I have seen little(admittedly I have only read about half) addressing the measurement methods. That’s all I am doing as anything the government or “officials “ puts out these days should be questioned. And again, I feel silly for having to repeat this but your type have to apparently be talked to like a child since you want to run with your misinterpretation of my post, I’m not saying there is not an obesity issue/problems but I absolutely refute the accuracy of the BMI.

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The measurement has not changed.

The composition has not changed, and there has not been a massive growth in overly fit Americans. There has been a massive growth in overweight/obese Americans.

Sorry for being dickish in that other post, but we have to stop disregarding a useable metric because of outliers. It allows others to completely disregard the data.

And, yes, fit Americans are currently outliers.

I do need to quit being such a dick on here.

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I can’t think of a single person I know who has achieved any level of substantial weight loss on a carbohydrate heavy diet.

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I lost 130 pounds on a carb heavy diet and have kept it off for 5+ years eating the same way. Now if you're referring to simple carbs then I agree with you.

Okay. Go to Target or a nice restaurant then. Same thing. Southerners are fat as shite.