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re: Obamacare is Coming After Your Craft Beer
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:09 am to TulaneUVA
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:09 am to TulaneUVA
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you're a small brewer who can't afford to pay the $77k, then you're probably not selling at large restaurant chains with over 20 locations. If you're selling at those chains, you can afford it.
I don't see anything wrong with posting calorie amounts. Can only help with decisions with what to drink. It's information I would like to know. Don't like that we are legislating it though.
I swear some people have no concept of business.
There are multiple local breweries here in the Nola area that are sold in places like Whole Foods and Rouses. These are breweries with probably 10 or fewer employees.
$70k is no drop in the bucket to them. That's huge. That's maybe 2 employees salaries. That's a whole marketing campaign to them.
Another instance of govt regulations hurting small business.
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:10 am to Smoke7024
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This is so dumb. The market will regulate this on it's own.
We can't have that. People need to be told what to do or they will always make the wrong choice.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:11 am to BugAC
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Thus, for a brewery, you'd have to have your beer tested before sending to market. And id assume you will be testing every batch of beer made.
If that's the case cost would be directly determined by volume, and would be variable, not a constant number.
In other words big producers would be impacted most by this.
Personally, i don't really care because:
1)My favorite breweries around me don't bottle their beer, and serve it direct from the brewery/restaurant/brewpub.
2)I make my own beer.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:12 am to LSUBoo
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Or will they start having to put nutrition info in order to export to the US?
If they frick with UT's Cantillion deliveries there will be hell to pay from that fatty
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:13 am to The First Cut
How can we reverse this? Like legitimately?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:14 am to JumpingTheShark
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How can we reverse this? Like legitimately?
Repeal all of Obamacare. SO, don't vote for Hillary in November.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:15 am to MontyFranklyn
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Don't come here with that type of logic
Or how about you just make them post in online since almost everyone in the damn country can access that information if they are really that curious about it? Seems like it makes the information available and it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than $77k
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:15 am to BugAC
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This hurts the small brewery more than the large chains. A small startup that was lucky enough to get an account at one of these chains now has to pull their beers or pay a fine...That's not good for the small guys.
And wouldn't you agree those customers that liked going to restaurant xyz will be pissed when they can't find the beer they want, along with probably many other beers? It creates an opportunity for smaller restaurants to capture the market by expanding their beer selection, which is ultimately a good thing.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:16 am to JumpingTheShark
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How can we reverse this? Like legitimately?
Bring a constitutional challenge to the specific provision and get a temporary injunction on its enforcement. Run it up the ladder, homie!
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:17 am to NYNolaguy1
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Personally, i don't really care because:
1)My favorite breweries around me don't bottle their beer, and serve it direct from the brewery/restaurant/brewpub.
So you don't drink other beer? I assume you are located in New York, where you have teh benefit of having local "neighborhood" breweries. In most of the country and it's not like that. I would hope you would care to some amount, because this will hurt many small breweries that make fantastic beer.
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2)I make my own beer.
So do I. And so did many who are now owners of breweries.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:17 am to etm512
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Or how about you just make them post in online since almost everyone in the damn country can access that information if they are really that curious about it?
I agree with this. I sometimes wonder how many calories I'm consuming when I get a random 6er of crafts but mandating they put it on a label seems a bit much.
But not every brewery has a website. Do they need to also mandate that all breweries have websites?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:18 am to NYNolaguy1
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And wouldn't you agree those customers that liked going to restaurant xyz will be pissed when they can't find the beer they want, along with probably many other beers? It creates an opportunity for smaller restaurants to capture the market by expanding their beer selection, which is ultimately a good thing.
Uh, not for the breweries who are trying to get their product in as many outlets as possible.
In no way imaginable is this a good thing for them.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:19 am to rintintin
LOL at anyone who thinks it costs $77,000 to figure out how many calories are in your beer.
This is a MENU LABELING requirement for RESTAURANTS with 20 or more locations, not a food/drink item requirement.
Just more lies from the right wing echo chamber.
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I wonder how many of you lost your minds when the Nutrition Labeling and Education Act was signed into law in 1990.
This is a MENU LABELING requirement for RESTAURANTS with 20 or more locations, not a food/drink item requirement.
Just more lies from the right wing echo chamber.
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I wonder how many of you lost your minds when the Nutrition Labeling and Education Act was signed into law in 1990.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:20 am to lsu2006
Reading through the thread and going back and forth with Salmon, I feel like I should be mad at this if it is indeed a big cost to the craft brewers. If it is just a matter of labeling the beer with more information than in the past, I don't see how this is a big deal.
I want to be triggered by this, but I just am not very triggered at all.
I want to be triggered by this, but I just am not very triggered at all.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:20 am to lsu2006
I have only skimmed through the thread, but where is the $77k figure coming from? I can't imagine mandating that all labels after a certain date in the future would cost an additional 80 grand. You're going to be printing anyways, just change it in the months between now and then, like the next time you print labels. Or is it something else, like the testing someone mentioned?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:21 am to The First Cut
"You didn't brew that beer"
"Gotta pass the bill to know what's in it"
"Gotta pass the bill to know what's in it"
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:21 am to TU Rob
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I have only skimmed through the thread, but where is the $77k figure coming from? I can't imagine mandating that all labels after a certain date in the future would cost an additional 80 grand. You're going to be printing anyways, just change it in the months between now and then, like the next time you print labels. Or is it something else, like the testing someone mentioned?
Obama did it so it's a scourge and it's un-American.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:22 am to Speedy G
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LOL at anyone who thinks it costs $77,000 to figure out how many calories are in your beer
I don't care if it costs $1. If people want to know the calories in their beer they'll demand it.
This is just more unneeded legislation from gov't.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:23 am to Speedy G
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LOL at anyone who thinks it costs $77,000 to figure out how many calories are in your beer.
This is a MENU LABELING requirement for RESTAURANTS with 20 or more locations, not a food/drink item requirement.
Just more lies from the right wing echo chamber.
From the HHS, you know, the people in charge of the mandate.
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The HHS concedes the measures will have a “significant economic impact on a substantial number of small entities,” and noted that approximately two-thirds of the regulated entities are small businesses, largely because of the prevalence of franchised entities in food service. Based on the HHS’s estimates, the menu labeling rule will impose per-entity costs ranging from $49,000 to $77,000.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:24 am to TulaneUVA
Who decides what beer to drink after reading the nutrition label? Maybe like 3 people ever
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