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re: Obamacare is Coming After Your Craft Beer

Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:24 am to
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:24 am to
but shelf turds

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TURDS

THE HORROR

SHELF TURDS
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79785 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:25 am to
I wonder if Parish will have to resubmit every one of their beers based on hop locations.


I could see that getting bad.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 11:26 am
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:25 am to
quote:

You're telling me they can't afford $77k. bullshite.


Why should they have to?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:26 am to
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Uh, not for the breweries who are trying to get their product in as many outlets as possible.

In no way imaginable is this a good thing for them.


I agree it's a terrible policy. It shouldn't be enacted.

But I am of the belief that people will go where they can find good food and drink. Most big chains don't have very local beers anyway. I just think that if the big chains don't serve the local craft beers they want they will go where they are served- local non chains. There's been a bigger movement toward that anyway. Chain restaurants aren't nearly as popular as they once were.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86695 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

. If it is just a matter of labeling the beer with more information than in the past, I don't see how this is a big deal.


like I said, its just more meaningless legislation

its the principle behind it all that I have a problem with

I don't really care about the actual cost
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58277 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Speedy G


From your link.

quote:

Also a calorie range, such as 95-150 calories, may be used if the menu uses generic terms like “beer,” “light beer,” “red wine,” or “white wine” and there are three or more items available within a category. However, if beers are listed by brand name, style, or category a caloric value must be provided next to each beer offered that corresponds with the serving size being provided to the consumer. Additional nutrition information must be available upon request from the consumer including calories, calories from fat, total fat, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, sodium, total carbohydrates, dietary fiber, sugars and protein.


quote:

Many food establishments are already taking steps to prepare for the regulations by analyzing or verifying nutrition information for their various offerings. Thus these establishments will be looking to the beer industry to provide the full nutrition profile of their products.


Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:27 am to
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Obama did it so it's a scourge and it's un-American.



Posted by Rouge
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:28 am to
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like I said, its just more meaningless legislation
what caloric labeling isn't meaningless, and what makes beer worthy enough of such an exception?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79785 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Why should they have to?


Because they have money stored up, the poors need that.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124901 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:29 am to
Good thing I just pound Michelob
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

what makes beer worthy enough of such an exception?


never said beer should be an exception

I don't think food should be required to label either
Posted by rintintin
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

But I am of the belief that people will go where they can find good food and drink. Most big chains don't have very local beers anyway. I just think that if the big chains don't serve the local craft beers they want they will go where they are served- local non chains. There's been a bigger movement toward that anyway. Chain restaurants aren't nearly as popular as they once were.





Places like Whole Foods and Rouses (which is local itself) carry local products and try to support the community. It's not just restaurants.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:29 am to
That $77,000 estimate is for restaurants, which is who this regulation applies to. Has nothing to do with craft brewers. That part is just made up BS.

And it only applies to restaurants with at least 20 locations.

Those restaurants will ask brewers for their calorie contents, which will cost them a couple hundred bucks to figure out.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25350 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:29 am to
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horseshite. Hooters, for one, sells the local craft brew here in Florida.


They carry it here in Louisiana as well, but I agree with the original poster, if hooters doesn't carry parish, it isn't going to hurt them, chimes or any other local bar would love another keg of it.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9490 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:31 am to
It's not that hard to add a tiny detail to your label. They already brag about IBUs and ABV on most craft labels. The real problem is when people start to realize how many calories that DIPA has, making Ultra appear almost palatable. I still can't figure out why this gut won't go away!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79785 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:31 am to
quote:

what caloric labeling isn't meaningless, and what makes beer worthy enough of such an exception?



I think all of then should be voluntary. Customer demand will keep many products labeled.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104451 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:31 am to
quote:

never said beer should be an exception

I don't think food should be required to label either



It's pretty well documented that nutrition labels on food products hasn't done anything to curb obesity in America.
Posted by Warheel
Member since Aug 2011
2305 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:33 am to
A local grocery chain close to my house has a growler fill station that rotates 10 taps pretty frequently.

They have the beer information written on a chalkboard. I'm wondering if simply riding the caloric information on the board will fulfill this stupid arse requirement.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:34 am to
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So you don't drink other beer? I assume you are located in New York, where you have teh benefit of having local "neighborhood" breweries. In most of the country and it's not like that. I would hope you would care to some amount, because this will hurt many small breweries that make fantastic beer.


You're correct mostly. Though I can't tell you the last time bought or drank a big 3 beer. My big problem with the big 3 has more to do with them buying out their competitors whenever they get too big and laying off the entire staff (see Rolling Rock). But even with that they have been losing market share to craft breweries across the nation. People want craft beer, wherever it is. That's why I don't think this will affect them very much.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79785 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:34 am to
quote:

I still can't figure out why this gut won't go away!



they should require directions on which end to open the bottle if we are trying to protect that level of idiot.
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