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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:00 am to Paddyshack
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so you're Team Hilary?
I associate team Hillary with somewhere between #TeamBaal and #TeamRamseyBolton.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:01 am to lsu2006
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He actually sent a memo to the FDA instructing them to "ruin a buncha shite" to piss off the OT.
I knew it!! And they said I was crazy.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:01 am to The First Cut
What a waste. Just more bureaucracy.
Overwhelming majority of people will read, or care what's in the beer. It's another case of the government doing something just for the sake of calling it progress.
Overwhelming majority of people will read, or care what's in the beer. It's another case of the government doing something just for the sake of calling it progress.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to Paddyshack
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so you're Team Hilary?
frick no. How the hell did you get to that conclusion?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to Salmon
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still unwarranted
tell that to the folks in Belgium that likely bankrolled the legislation
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just more bureaucracy.
it saddens me with the number of people with the "meh they can afford it" mentality
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to roadGator
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Hooters, for one, sells the local craft brew here in Florida.
BurgerFi and Mellow Mushroom too.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:03 am to nes2010
True.
BurgerFi
Great burgers.
BurgerFi
Great burgers.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:03 am to Salmon
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it saddens me with the number of people with the "meh they can afford it" mentality
I agree with this.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:04 am to The Sad Banana
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I see your point here and I'm not trying to be difficult. And I definitely think it's unwarranted...BUT, I don't mind having calorie content and other important nutrition facts, like added sugars, on the things we consume. Beer is basically like dessert, though...who cares how many calories are in it?
Well, the specifics of the requirements carries penalties. If you are off by 5-10 calories you are penalized. Thus, for a brewery, you'd have to have your beer tested before sending to market. And id assume you will be testing every batch of beer made. Then once the testing is done, you'd have to reprint labels, or send those statistics to retailers/restaurants, etc...
That is lost wages on something that does not increase sales/productivity. Ergo, it is an expense. In production brewing, every oz. of beer made carries a price tag. That includes labor, materials, equipment, overhead, etc... Lost time spent on needless regulations born through some notion that the reason Americans are fat is because they are uninformed results in a hit to that is more impactful to small startups than large breweries. Even the HHS admitted so and came up with that number. So that is a conservative estimate at best.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:04 am to MontyFranklyn
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Don't come here with that type of logic
I disagree that it is logical at all. It is shortsighted in the sense that a lot of these guys get their big break by being picked up for the first time by a chain that specializes in beer. Think World of Beer & Taco Mac. Now those restaurants won't even look for the up and coming beers, especially those local to the restaurant's location.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:06 am to NYNolaguy1
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Like my ETA from my previous post- ultimately this will hurt chain restaurants more than anything when they can only supply certain beers people want.
This hurts the small brewery more than the large chains. A small startup that was lucky enough to get an account at one of these chains now has to pull their beers or pay a fine...That's not good for the small guys.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:06 am to Salmon
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Just more bureaucracy.
it saddens me with the number of people with the "meh they can afford it" mentality
Yeah, to me..the layers of added bureaucracy hurt the little guy, not the mass producer.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:06 am to The Sad Banana
Adding shite like this to the label is much greater of an expense to a small business than a large one. Additionally, it is an expense that adds little to no value, in fact, probably decreases value.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:07 am to BugAC
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Then once the testing is done, you'd have to reprint labels
have not read anything about labeling requirements
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:08 am to The First Cut
This is so dumb. The market will regulate this on it's own. If you want the label, then you won't buy the beer. If you don't care, then you'll buy it. No reason for the government to get involved at all.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:08 am to Rouge
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have not read anything about labeling requirements
which makes it even more of a ridiculous legislation
what percentage of people are actually going to go to the website and look up the calories before buying a beer?
<1%?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:09 am to Salmon
shite is just insidious. 
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:09 am to Salmon
i know mouton will
that 32" waist isn't going to maintain itself
that 32" waist isn't going to maintain itself
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