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re: Obamacare is Coming After Your Craft Beer

Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:34 am to
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:34 am to
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If you're selling at those chains, you can afford it.



You really can't. Do you understand what margins are? DO you understand the already high amount of regulations the craft beer industry must undertake? Of course you don't, you're an idiot.

California alone is about to see a mass exodus of craft breweries due to their overregulations. The $15/hr minimum wage mandate is going to kill small startups that try to grow big, now you are going to stifle them more with this petty shite?

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I don't see anything wrong with posting calorie amounts. Can only help with decisions with what to drink.


Then google the fricking beer, sally, and go to the breweries website. Most breweries have this information already. But instead, you want pappa government to make others tell you the calories of the beer? Liberals are the absolute lowest forms of life.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:35 am to
I may change your mind on how many and what kind. Sure. I know it influence me somewhat
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:35 am to
I don't see a problem with including nutrition facts on a label.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:36 am to
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Small craft breweries aren't necessarily targeting large chain restaurants to begin with


horseshite.

Hooters, for one, sells the local craft brew here in Florida.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:36 am to
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If you're a small brewer who can't afford to pay the $77k, then you're probably not selling at large restaurant chains with over 20 locations. I


I'm sure the owner of 40 Arpent disagrees with this
Posted by txtiger21
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:36 am to
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If you're a small brewer who can't afford to pay the $77k, then you're probably not selling at large restaurant chains with over 20 locations. If you're selling at those chains, you can afford it.


Not true at all. There's plenty of restaurants and beer bars with a couple dozen locations that seek out small/new local breweries to put on tap. This would be yet another barrier to entry to pad the market for the big guys. A requirement like this is a good idea, but should be based on bbl per year brewed not where it's served.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:36 am to
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I don't see a problem with including nutrition facts on a label.


that isn't the problem
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:38 am to
Again, I am not for legislating it. Read my damn post

I just don't see it as a bad idea to have the calories labeled on the beer. What does it hurt?

Also, I am far from liberal but go ahead with your name calling.
Posted by CidCock
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:38 am to
I am all for piling on Obama; but I have one question. While I don't care about the calorie count, is it hard for breweries to determine this info? I honestly don't know
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:38 am to
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may change your mind on how many and what kind. Sure. I know it influence me somewhat



Do you assume foods are healthy if they don't have a label?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:38 am to
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I don't see a problem with including nutrition facts on a label.


You also aren't a startup brewery facing about 30 governmental regulation hurdles to start with either. Not only is Beer treated differently than other alcoholic beverages with distribution, taxation, etc... now you are going to throw this bullshite on them? And why?

Just start drinking Mich ultra if you are that concerned with it. Craft beer in general, is roughly 160 - 300 calories. You don't drink it for health benefits. You drink it because its delicious, its made local and supports a local business.

But let's legislate every fricking thing under the sun because "you dont' see a problem".
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20882 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:38 am to
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Small craft breweries aren't necessarily targeting large chain restaurants to begin with. If I'm understanding this law, why bother with the labeling?


This. My favorite breweries cater to local restaurants that aren't chains. If anything this will encourage more gastropubs because they won't have to adhere to these label restrictions.

Eta- this will hurt chain restaurants more than local ones because ultimately the trend has been that people want craft beer. If a chain restaurant doesn't have it, they might go elsewhere.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:48 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72176 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:39 am to
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horseshite.

Hooters, for one, sells the local craft brew here in Florida.


Then those craft breweries can likely afford it. Those breweries are getting beyond nano, micro, etc. The small ones generally cater to local restaurants. If they're outgrowing that, distributing and such, then they'll be able to afford it.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:39 am to
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I just don't see it as a bad idea to have the calories labeled on the beer. What does it hurt?


Well obviously, the brewery. At a tune starting at about $80k.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:39 am to
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While I don't care about the calorie count, is it hard for breweries to determine this info? I honestly don't know


I doubt it is that hard
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:39 am to
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Then those craft breweries can likely afford it.


Afford the $77k penalty or afford posting the nutritional info?
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25891 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am to
Yeah dude, if you're a craft brewer seeking to a local hooters and you have you tell in the door there, you're probably on the level of a Great Raft or Tin Toof. You're telling me they can't afford $77k. bullshite.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am to
This seems to stem from an older law.

That said, I don't really care for calorie information on my beer. If I'm drinking craft beer then I'm doing it for flavor not for "nutritional" purposes. Hell, I've made a stout before that had 300 calories per pint.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73680 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am to
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I just don't see it as a bad idea to have the calories labeled on the beer. What does it hurt?


Being mandated to include the health info is just fine by you because someone may mistake beer for health drinks?
Posted by Salmon
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83554 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am to
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Then those craft breweries can likely afford it.


you know this...how?
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