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re: NYC has fallen.

Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
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you got a link saying it was her?

There are various twitter users stating this.



At first when I read this, I thought she worked at Subway.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33958 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:46 pm to
So you are suggesting that 1,120 is the total number and there weren't any that went unreported?

Your statement also assumes that the "bad thing" would happen on the millionth ride and not anytime before then. I highly doubt this woman was about to hit 7 figures.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104140 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

thought she worked at Subway.
Hmm, at A Subway or The subway?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104140 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:47 pm to
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So you are suggesting that 1,120 is the total number and there weren't any that went unreported?
Im suggesting we look up stats to the best of our ability instead of using your emotional argument or another posters emotional argument

But you won’t accept anything and will just say they are making it up so it’s impossible to form any actual logical opinion with you

It’s the same with people that say the world is flat. Anything you show them is “oh and you think they don’t have a reason to lie????”
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104140 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Your statement also assumes that the "bad thing" would happen on the millionth ride and not anytime before then. I highly doubt this woman was about to hit 7 figures.


What a mathematician guys. You understand how stats work? Do you think everyone that wins the lottery actually wins it on their 1,000,000th ticket bought?

Some people are on the bad end of stats and some on the good end. Kinda how averages work friend
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33958 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:53 pm to
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So, statistically, it takes 1 million rides to experience a violent encounter.


Fine...let's use stats. From the very page/report you grabbed yours from

quote:

For the sake of illustration, let’s start with the 2023 rate of one reported violent incident for every 280,000 rides. Then imagine that you take the subway about 10 times a week, resulting in 500 rides per year. Also assume that you can see 20 riders whenever you take the train – if anything, a conservative assumption. Finally, let’s say you keep in regular contact with about 30 people who live in New York and have the same subway ridership habits.

We’ll save you from having to dig out your probability textbook by calculating some of the relevant risks for you. You still have a low probability — about 1-in-500 — of being a victim of a reported violent crime yourself, even over the course of an entire year. But probabilities have a surprising way of accumulating. You have a 1-in-30 chance of seeing a violent crime unfolding on the subway over the course of the year. And across your community of 30 people, there’s about a two-thirds chance that someone you know will have seen or experienced a violent crime unfolding on the train. New Yorkers who live in neighborhoods with higher crime, who take the subway during off-peak hours or who have longer commutes, likely face higher risks than this citywide average.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14470 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Hmm, at A Subway or The subway?


A Subway.

As a matter of fact, when I read it, I smelled the italian bread.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104140 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:57 pm to
You are literally using “a narrative” argument from their article

Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15291 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:59 pm to
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We're talking like 20 million people.


It’s 10x that of Tokyos rate, and 6-7x that of other major cities throughout Europe. In no way is being 10x worse than a peer inconceivably low.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104140 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:00 pm to
For American cities NYC does not have a bad violent crime rate

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14470 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:01 pm to
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For American cities NYC does not have a bad violent crime rate



This is true.

Its all tied to education folks. Its never been about color.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123899 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:03 pm to
Can anyone explain the video to me? She is just standing there, straight up, on fire, not moving at all, and no one is doing anything?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33958 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

You are literally using “a narrative” argument from their article



The bolded part is an application of the statistics. But because you don't like it you will try and dismiss it.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57861 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:13 pm to
Houston is significantly more violent than NYC, but you’re not going to be pushed onto train racks, get burned to death in a train car, and probably a lot less likely to get attacked walking down the street

It’s nuanced and statistics don’t always tell the entire story
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14164 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:19 pm to
That city needs the kind of help only mercenaries can provide.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 6:31 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83502 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Houston is significantly more violent than NYC, but you’re not going to be pushed onto train racks, get burned to death in a train car, and probably a lot less likely to get attacked walking down the street

It’s nuanced and statistics don’t always tell the entire story


I've taken to calling it "felt crime." Sure, it's inexact, but not to be dismissed.

A random, low-risk lifestyle person getting burned alive on the subway in a not bad area is the epitome of that. Or a dad of 3 getting mugged and shot in a decent part of a city at 3PM, etc.

Crime may be at a 20 year low but if it's bleeding into areas where people who don't engage in risky lifestyles are being impacted, it's not entirely irrational for people to take note and be apprehensive (even if statistically your chances of being victimized remain near zero).
Posted by cymark
Member since Oct 2015
189 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:09 pm to
This. What’s going on? Did no one try and help? Assuming an accelerate was used by the whole things just seems odd. I assumed she was drunk and passed out and homeless. That doesn’t appear to be the case at all.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8086 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:20 pm to
Done by an illegal Trump kicked out but Biden allowed back in.
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Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69694 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:21 pm to
statistically, could’ve happened to anyone and could’ve been done by anyone…
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