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NY Times - The Future of Nonconformity. Where freethinkers go to fight
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:10 pm
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Like other realms, American intellectual life has been marked by a series of exclusions. The oldest and vastest was the exclusion of people of color from the commanding institutions of our culture.
Today, there’s the exclusion of conservatives from academic life. Then there’s the exclusion of working-class voices from mainstream media. Our profession didn’t used to be all coastal yuppies, but now it mostly is. Then there’s the marginalization of those with radical critiques — from say, the Marxist left and the theological right.
Intellectual exclusion and segregation have been terrible for America, poisoning both the right and the left.
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Intellectual segregation has been bad for the left, too. It produced insularity. Progressives are often blindsided by reality — blindsided that Trump won the presidency; blindsided that Joe Biden clinched the Democratic presidential nomination. The second consequence is fragility. When you make politics the core of your religious identity, and you shield yourself from heresy, then any glimpse of that heresy is going to provoke an extreme emotional reaction. The third consequence is conformity. Writers are now expected to write as a representative of a group, in order to affirm the self-esteem of the group. Predictability is the point.
In some ways the left has become even more conformist than the right. The liberal New Republic has less viewpoint diversity than the conservative National Review — a reversal of historical patterns. Christopher Hitchens was one of the great essayists in America. He would be unemployable today because there was no set of priors he wasn’t willing to offend.
Now the boundaries of exclusion are shifting again. What we erroneously call “cancel culture” is an attempt to shift the boundaries of the sayable so it excludes not only conservatives but liberals and the heterodox as well. Hence the attacks on, say, Steven Pinker and Andrew Sullivan.
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
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NY Times
Stopped reading there
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:24 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
I think the article is about you then.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
It’s amusing to read these types of pieces in the NYT. Welcome to the reality you created. The rest of America needs no primer on what ‘cancel culture’ means, thank you very much.
Political Correctness on steroids is causing a problem for freedom of expression, freedom of thinking and nonconformity? Whoa! Ya don’t say!
Political Correctness on steroids is causing a problem for freedom of expression, freedom of thinking and nonconformity? Whoa! Ya don’t say!
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
I’m quite surprised the NY Times published this.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The liberal New Republic has less viewpoint diversity than the conservative National Review — a reversal of historical patterns.
This is false! The National review has always been at least as diverse as the New Republic. There have been editors at the National Review that have supported legalizing drugs 40 years ago. And is being Pro-Life less diverse then being Pro-Choice?
The National Review were for Global Free Trade while the New Republic was for "protecting American steel and auto jobs. The National Review had editors who supported a muscular foreign policy under which we would export, and fight for, democracy and the right of all nations to self-determine via near-universal suffrage.
But the larger point is correct: the left is illiberal.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
How IRONIC that the NEW YORK TIMES which just eliminated people and Op EDs for freethinking writes an article about............ yep you got it........
FREETHINKING
You just can't make this kind of shilute up
FREETHINKING
You just can't make this kind of shilute up
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:06 pm to RLDSC FAN
This article is dripping with irony coming from the NYT after recent events.
Whomever wrote this is going to get run off, and whichever editor let it get published will be out within a week.
Whomever wrote this is going to get run off, and whichever editor let it get published will be out within a week.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Where freethinkers go to fight
Tigerdroppings
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
Who unplugged them and fed them red pills?
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:41 pm to Gaston
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I think the article is about you then.
Maybe but the NYT has been towing a certain point of view for quite awhile. There is a reason why many people now tune them out.
Is the NYT really want a change or is it an attempt to recover reader base it has lost touch with? Noble or for cash?
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:42 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Who unplugged them and fed them red pills?
Again, I think the NYT wants to be relevant again in America....and gain back paying readers
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
The idiots that started this stuff are terrified because it's finally biting them in the arse. They weaponized the far, far left and cannot handle the monster they created.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:48 pm to Jcorye1
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The idiots that started this stuff are terrified because it's finally biting them in the arse. They weaponized the far, far left and cannot handle the monster they created.
You give them too much credit. They're "too smart" to be terrified of their own weaponization. It's hysterical to watch.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:07 pm to ELLSSUU
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You give them too much credit. They're "too smart" to be terrified of their own weaponization. It's hysterical to watch.
Agreed. Both sides do not see what is going on.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:10 pm to RLDSC FAN
The problem is half the "news" are actually opinion pieces. You have to search for the news they aren't on the front page headlines.
Most of you are too stupid to realize this or check across news sources because you are lazy and when something doesn't fit your narrative you dismiss it.
Most of you are too stupid to realize this or check across news sources because you are lazy and when something doesn't fit your narrative you dismiss it.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:19 pm to DeafJam73
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I’m quite surprised the NY Times published this.
This opinion sums up the article I think. I think the content from the NYT, Washington Post, and CNN etc have become so much about being on the "right side of history" that they often don't tell the news. Or put it this way, the perception of that behavior is so prevalent, that when they do tell the news of the day, it is automatically greeted with skepticism.
I think these outlets are becoming universally untrustworthy.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:25 pm to DeafJam73
Between his attacks on the meritocracy, he argues it’s just a dysfunctional kleptocracy, Brooks has some unthinkable ideas.
Credit to Brooks.
Credit to Brooks.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:31 pm to Penrod
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which we would export, and fight for, democracy and the right of all nations to self-determine via near-universal suffrage.
This policy is a downfall of American exceptionalism and egotistical politicians.
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