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re: NVIDIA CEO: Next gen should lean more toward biology, education, manufacturing, or farming

Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
590 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:34 pm to
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I have a daughter that will be a SR in high school in August. Trying to help her figure out what to do is something I've been struggling with. She's not exactly going to be a plumber.


Paul Graham has an excellent essay

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What are you excessively curious about — curious to a degree that would bore most other people? That's what you're looking for.


How to do great work

IMO, focus on core principles vs trying to predict trends like what happens with AI.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11894 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:35 pm to
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People with actual skills are going to be able to make some serious bank in the next 10-20 years. Plumbers, electricians, HVAC, welders, machinists, etc. People with worthless degrees will be boned though.


What’s serious bank? Because most will be doing like 60k.

This has been said for years now and there never been that big boom that people keep claiming for “skilled laborers”
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9383 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:41 pm to
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There have been two threads about this on this board over the last 3 weeks or so that put the lie to this notion. According to those who are in these fields, unless you're the owner of the business or working your arse off with ot, you're not cracking 6 figures.


This, and unless you own your own business, trades would be back-breaking work into your 50s and 60s. Maybe even late 40s for some.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6486 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:53 pm to
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This, and unless you own your own business, trades would be back-breaking


No. If you're 45 and still plumbing a toilet, you've failed. The entire way you make money is running your own trucks. I'd flush my degree down the toilet in exchange for the trades. I ran cable pre-drywall, and it's not that bad, even in Louisiana.

If someone would have told me that about plumbing, electrical or HVAC, I never would have bothered with a BS.

The point isn't to pull cable or snake drains, it is to run trucks of people 20 years younger than you that can pull cable and snake drains.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35359 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:56 pm to
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The entire way you make money is running your own trucks


Why do that when they could just manage their own law firm or cpa firm? They’d probably make way more money doing that.
Posted by Melkor
Member since Sep 2022
122 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:02 pm to
This is nothing more than a poor sales pitch for AI which has proven to be really, really bad. AI is a threat to no one in the foreseeable future.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2359 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:03 pm to
Im a cloud architect and coding scripts is just a small part of my job. AI still isnt as good as a human at coding.

ChatGPT and Copilot really suck at Microsoft Graph and other Microsoft powershell modules.

Both constantly make up fake cmdlets that don't exist. I only use AI to help me with logic sometimes but overall it still sucks at coding and I dont trust it yet.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
Member since Nov 2012
1928 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:08 pm to
I am pretty fricking sick of these nerds constantly toiling away on their calculators and excel spreadsheets. They can't leave shite alone. Robot dogs. Robot intelligence. Robot drones. Robot crops. Fake meat. Instant replay in baseball. frick off, nerds.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22189 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:10 pm to
The machines are going to kill us all.
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
590 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:25 pm to
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I am pretty fricking sick of these nerds constantly toiling away on their calculators and excel spreadsheets.


To be fair, no self respecting nerd is using calculators or Excel very much.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6486 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:26 pm to
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law firm or cpa firm?


Edited, (Opex), for one. I have to pay a lawyer from SMU $150k a year to discharge car bankruptcies. Or I can pay a dude that can do things $60k (or less) to generate the same amount of profit.

Also, it's very easy to manage blue collar workers. I don't mean that to be insulting, but get them paid, get them home, and don't treat them like garbage, they're mostly happy. Let's think about mostly female CPAs and lawyers. How different is the work experience, do you think? Who would you like to manage? At least a latino plumber isn't going to try to sue me for harassment.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:38 am to
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People with worthless degrees will be boned though.


I’d rather take my chances with that gender studies degree than digging plumbing pipe trenches under a porch in 100 degree summer heat in Louisiana.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17192 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:07 am to
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have a daughter that will be a SR in high school in August. Trying to help her figure out what to do is something I've been struggling with. She's not exactly going to be a plumber.


We had an excellent woman plumber in HSV, AR. She took over the business from her father who did it part-time while working as a prison guard. She even came out herself to fix/replace odds and ends when we were selling even though she was about ready to give birth.

Of course the generational thing helps and I’m gonna guess that OP daddy is not a plumber, so probably not gonna work out as well.
Posted by Cajun Tifoso
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2010
2562 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:10 am to
It is going to be putting a LOT of Hollywood folk out on their arse.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119249 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:11 am to
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People with actual skills are going to be able to make some serious bank in the next 10-20 years. Plumbers, electricians, HVAC, welders, machinists, etc.


Trade skills will make bank for sure.

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People with worthless degrees will be boned though.



As they should. I hope this contracts colleges and universities from offering worthless degrees they know are worthless to start with, and they shrink in size to where they are only offering degree programs in needed areas of society.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15770 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:13 am to
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People with actual skills are going to be able to make some serious bank in the next 10-20 years.


I doubt it. If a market existed where running wire would be a sought after position, people would learn how do to it. It’s not hard to learn
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9488 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:16 am to
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These are definitely some crazy times in the world of tech right now.


fricking hate the nerd age.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15015 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:20 am to
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I have a daughter that will be a SR in high school in August. Trying to help her figure out what to do is something I've been struggling with. She's not exactly going to be a plumber.



With our aging population something in the medical industry might be a good bet. My daughter is in school to be an X-Ray technician. My one concern is I'm hearing that field is getting saturated
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5575 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:24 am to
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AI still isnt as good as a human at coding.


It's garbage at helping with SQL coding and analytics. Snowflake put on a big presentation and couldn't get it to write simple queries correctly.

It's many years away in some sectors.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:27 am to
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I’d rather take my chances with that gender studies degree


No doubt. You would cry if you got a callus. Meaningless drivel would suit you better than actual work.

the coming White Collar bloodbath

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“Nothing is so unsettling to a social order as the presence of a mass of scribes without suitable employment and an acknowledged status.”


Enjoy your current carefree urban lifestyle.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 6:30 am
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