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re: Nursing student disappears after reporting toddler walking on interstate UPDATE: ARRESTED
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:41 pm to BoogaBear
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:41 pm to BoogaBear
Well that video leaves more questions than answers. Whoever that was definitely wasn’t looking for a child from 1000 feet away at night.
My first thought was she was having some weird hallucination event and ran into the woods chasing a “child” and got lost. I was shocked they didn’t find her in the woods today.
In the video you can see somebody exit the vehicle around :52 and looked to stand on the passenger side until around 1:40.
My first thought was she was having some weird hallucination event and ran into the woods chasing a “child” and got lost. I was shocked they didn’t find her in the woods today.
In the video you can see somebody exit the vehicle around :52 and looked to stand on the passenger side until around 1:40.
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:46 pm to DeCat ODahouse
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If that is her car, maybe she passed the child, called 911, exited & was coming back around for the second time to the spot where she saw the kid?
Doubtful. Next exit is like 4 miles up.
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If you stick with the vid at 3:45 what looks like a large flashlight waves in the woods back towards the camera. Really hope there is some more news or at least clarification on the video.
If I’m looking at what you’re talking about, it’s just camera distortion.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:56 pm to Freight Joker
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My first thought was she was having some weird hallucination event and ran into the woods chasing a “child” and got lost. I was shocked they didn’t find her in the woods today.
Yeah I hate to lean that way, but there’s no evidence of a 2nd vehicle or evidence of a child.
There’s also no signs of a struggle near the vehicle, and there are cars going by at a consistent rate from the time she stops until the time the police show up.
If her wig was removed from her head, she did it herself. Doesn’t seem to be any indication another person was there to leave her belongings with the car.
I have a feeling more will come out with this story.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:20 am to Freight Joker
My understanding of the facts / timeline is something like:
She saw a "toddler" on the side of the road while driving.
She probably passed it up and decided to call 911 because due to her speed / reaction time - she couldn't stop / turn around.
While making the call to 911 she looped back to the area again.
As she approached the area where she saw the child, she slowed down and put her hazards on, indicating her intent to stop.
When she saw the child again, she stopped and exited the vehicle while on the phone with her family member, relaying the story.
She walked around the car to the passenger side while on the phone / calling out to the child.
There was no audible response from the child heard on the other end of the phone. Perhaps it was dummy.
She approached the unresponsive "child" in the dark and something happened. She screamed and dropped her phone without hanging up.
Edit: It makes sense to me for it to have been a scarecrow. A predator hiding in the woods watching could just wait if a man or cop stopped to check it out. Those types would just drive off after realizing it was a piece of junk and not a real kid. No further investigation. The abductor just waits to amush a single woman.
She saw a "toddler" on the side of the road while driving.
She probably passed it up and decided to call 911 because due to her speed / reaction time - she couldn't stop / turn around.
While making the call to 911 she looped back to the area again.
As she approached the area where she saw the child, she slowed down and put her hazards on, indicating her intent to stop.
When she saw the child again, she stopped and exited the vehicle while on the phone with her family member, relaying the story.
She walked around the car to the passenger side while on the phone / calling out to the child.
There was no audible response from the child heard on the other end of the phone. Perhaps it was dummy.
She approached the unresponsive "child" in the dark and something happened. She screamed and dropped her phone without hanging up.
Edit: It makes sense to me for it to have been a scarecrow. A predator hiding in the woods watching could just wait if a man or cop stopped to check it out. Those types would just drive off after realizing it was a piece of junk and not a real kid. No further investigation. The abductor just waits to amush a single woman.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 12:45 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:20 am to Smeg
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She saw a "toddler" on the side of the road while driving. She probably passed it up and decided to call 911 because due to her speed / reaction time - she couldn't stop / turn around.
That’s what makes this highly bizarre. If you’re traveling at regular speed at that time of night, the chances of you seeing anything for more than a few seconds is very slim. To loop back around takes time too. You have to continue on to exit 10 which is the Hwy 150 Hoover met exit. Turning around you have to go back past the galleria and then jump back on 459. It takes 10 to 15 minutes easily… I will point out though that there are houses not very far off the interstate where this took place. If she was snatched up and drug into the woods they’d be in someone’s backyard really quickly.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:38 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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Turning around you have to go back past the galleria and then jump back on 459. It takes 10 to 15 minutes easily… I will point out though that there are houses not very far off the interstate where this took place. If she was snatched up and drug into the woods they’d be in someone’s backyard really quickly.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
It had to be several minutes from when she first made visual contact with the child and the video we see of her car. Because she had to dial 911, speak to the operator, give the details, etc. Then call her family member and do it all over again. All that couldn't have happened in the first 60 seconds of the video, before she parked. This could only be done if she had looped back.
It also explains the slow approach on the shoulder with the hazards on. She's trying to find it again.
Also, because there is no other car in the video and we see the cops blue lights at the end - the only possibly direction she could have been taken was into the woods / the subdivision on the other side. Whatever happened to her happened in like 2 minutes.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:02 am to Smeg
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This could only be done if she had looped back.
I feel pretty confident she looped back. Exit 10 to 150 is a half mile from where this happened. Depending on how fast she drove back around, she could have easily made it back in less than 10 minutes. And you’re right, the flashers to me indicate she looped back around to see it again… as far as the houses on the other side of the woods, they are very close. They are close enough to see the lights in the windows. I’ve driven past there thousands of times.
Also, a comment from a friends Facebook post.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 2:51 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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he either had a child with him or he was on his knees trying to look like a child.
Well, that could account for the "tall brown-skinned man" that the truck-driver reported seeing at her car. However, if that also did happen 2 years ago too, then he must have had a different child this time, because the other child would no longer be a toddler after 2 years had passed.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 3:32 am to TheDude321
I’ve seen a lot of speculation that this was a schizophrenic or other mental illness episode that may has previously been undetected. After seeing the traffic camera video and police arriving minutes after she pulled over, I’d believe this theory more than a kidnapping. There is no way she was pulled away that quickly without the responding officer noticing.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 3:39 am to TheDude321
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Well, that could account for the "tall brown-skinned man" that the truck-driver reported seeing at her car.
The truck driver probably saw her when she walked around to the passenger side of her car. When she does that a truck drives by on the video and it looks like she may have opened the back door and leaned into the car which fits with the reported sighting by the trucker.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:08 am to Diseasefreeforall
I'm leaning hard that this wasn't an abduction at all. You can clearly see her exit the vehicle and stand beside it. Her SiL says that she heard her asking what is presumed to be the child if they were ok, but no other figure appears visible. Secondly no other figure appears in the light at any time. No one approaches the car. No one leans into the car either, which makes the truck driver's statement very odd. The mile markers themselves are a half mile apart and are clearly visible in the video. If you watch the video you will see no other car pull over into or out of the emergency lane.
Imo the only place she could go was directly into the woods which would have put her in the very large neighborhood on the other side of the tree line. She would have almost immediately been in someone's backyard. That's also extremely inconvenient if you're planning to nab someone because you'd need your vehicle parked in front of someone's home rather early in the evening and you'd need to drag said person through someone's back and front yard to make your escape
Imo the only place she could go was directly into the woods which would have put her in the very large neighborhood on the other side of the tree line. She would have almost immediately been in someone's backyard. That's also extremely inconvenient if you're planning to nab someone because you'd need your vehicle parked in front of someone's home rather early in the evening and you'd need to drag said person through someone's back and front yard to make your escape
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:17 am to Diseasefreeforall
The trucker actually reports seeing a grey car and makes it sound like that’s the car the man was leaning into. Carlee was dressed in all black not khaki shorts. I agree it all had to happen real fast and he got lucky to get out of there but it is possible. It’s weird not being able to see this grey car get back on the interstate though. He would have had to do it with no lights on. That stretch of interstate is extremely dark at night but it seemed pretty busy at the time.
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Talitha Russell said a tip was called in from a trucker who was traveling along I-459 at the time of Carlee Russell’s disappearance.
“He saw her red car with the door open and he saw a grey car with a tall brown skinned man with khaki shorts on leaning over in the car,’’ Talitha Russell said.
“The police did find some tire tracks in the grass,’’ she said. “They said because it was not a muddy area, they were not able to determine what type of vehicle it could have been.”
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:45 am to WestSideTiger
I think the arrow could be the grey car at the 7 sec mark. The box is roughly where her car stopped. I noticed the distances are really misleading because of how high up and far away the camera is. It’s at least a mile back but there are much greater distances between the groups of signs than the video seems. It’s also why the vehicles seem to be going so slow.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:51 am to WestSideTiger
Video zoomed:
https://streamable.com/a3afw5
Once she exits her car she immediately walks around to the passenger side, opens passenger side door and leans in. Closes it and 20 seconds or so later we lose sight of her.
https://streamable.com/a3afw5
Once she exits her car she immediately walks around to the passenger side, opens passenger side door and leans in. Closes it and 20 seconds or so later we lose sight of her.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:54 am to Diseasefreeforall
I don't know how y'all can see shite. I can make out the driver door opening and that's about it. Is my shite more blurry than y'alls or something?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:51 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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That’s what makes this highly bizarre. If you’re traveling at regular speed at that time of night, the chances of you seeing anything for more than a few seconds is very slim. To loop back around takes time too. You have to continue on to exit 10 which is the Hwy 150 Hoover met exit. Turning around you have to go back past the galleria and then jump back on 459. It takes 10 to 15 minutes easily…
Was her car found on 459 or Preserve? I heard it happened right where Preserve goes under 459.
I was in the area about noon yesterday and there were cops everywhere. Didn’t know what was going on. Shocked to hear what happened. Hope she is found.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:07 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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The mile markers themselves are a half mile apart and are clearly visible in the video.
The mile markers are spaced at 2/10ths of a mile on 459.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 6:09 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:15 am to HailToTheChiz
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This assumes there's only one person involved. If there are three in on it, you have two lookouts identifying potential victims way up/down the road and advising the other when to send the child out. They would also be looking out for police traffic as well of course.
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It's at night on an interstate. No lookout is able to identify a victim traveling 70mph. Would also be hard to spot incoming patrol due to headlights
Yeah this scheme doesn't make too much sense, but makes even less on an interstate. Like another poster said, if this was on a dark country road with little travel, then it makes sense.
Theoretically possible, but doesn't pass the smell test.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:24 am to TigersSEC2010
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I’ve seen a lot of speculation that this was a schizophrenic or other mental illness episode that may has previously been undetected. After seeing the traffic camera video and police arriving minutes after she pulled over, I’d believe this theory more than a kidnapping. There is no way she was pulled away that quickly without the responding officer noticing.
There is a pretty popular internet mystery this reminds me of, and yes, it was mental illness and that woman was never found, either.
I'm not awake yet to remember the details but she was on a hotel (I think but not 100% sure) camera looking paranoid and then was never found. It looks like she was trying to escape from someone but it came out later she had mental health issues and whatever she was scared of did not exist.
*ETA: I'm not talking about the case of the woman in the hotel in LA who was found in the water tank (although it's probably the same story there). The woman in the case I posted above was another black woman. The woman found in the water supply of the hotel was asian, IIRC>
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 6:25 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:33 am to MorbidTheClown
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perp sets a kid out to walk along the road Good samaritan stops to check on kid perp grabs samaritan and kid and hauls them away.
Seems wildly inefficient
What happens when a full family stops, the police stop or multiple cars show up? Show up and act confused how the kid got there?
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