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NPR: We need to talk about your gas stove, your health and climate change
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:53 pm
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Americans love their gas stoves. It's a romance fueled by a decades-old "cooking with gas" campaign from utilities that includes vintage advertisements, a cringeworthy 1980s rap video and, more recently, social media personalities. The details have changed over time, but the message is the same: Using a gas stove makes you a better cook.
But the beloved gas stove has become a focal point in a fight over whether gas should even exist in the 35% of U.S. homes that cook with it.
Environmental groups are focused on potential health effects. Burning gas emits pollutants that can cause or worsen respiratory illnesses. Residential appliances like gas-powered furnaces and water heaters vent pollution outside, but the stove "is the one gas appliance in your home that is most likely unvented," says Brady Seals with RMI, formerly Rocky Mountain Institute.
The focus on possible health risks from stoves is part of the broader campaign by environmentalists to kick gas out of buildings to fight climate change. Commercial and residential buildings account for about 13% of heat-trapping emissions, mainly from the use of gas appliances.
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The gas utility industry is fighting to preserve its business by downplaying existing science on gas stoves and indoor air quality. It points out that federal regulators have declined to regulate gas stoves more stringently. And it is investing in a range of campaigns to remind customers that cooking with gas is cheaper.
This battle is aimed at influencing your decision the next time you buy a new cookstove.
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Josiah Kephart is an environmental epidemiologist at Drexel University in Philadelphia who researches indoor air pollution from cookstoves in Latin America. On a sunny summer morning we met in his kitchen to test the pollution from his family's gas stove.
If you have an electric stove, the energy for cooking may come from fossil fuels, but the combustion happens at a power plant far away, Kephart says. "When you have a gas stove, that combustion is actually occurring right in your kitchen — you can see the blue flame down there," he says. "There is no smoke-free combustion."
The most common pollutants from gas stoves are nitrogen dioxide (NO2), carbon monoxide and formaldehyde. Advocates now are mostly focused on NO2, which the Environmental Protection Agency says is a toxic gas that even in low concentrations can trigger breathing problems for people with asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
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Federal agencies, including the EPA and the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), say they are paying attention to the gas stove pollution issue. But none has moved to regulate potentially harmful emissions, a point the gas industry emphasizes to dismiss concerns about possible health effects of stoves.
"Someone's going to have to claim this issue and really make a change, because I think as more consumers learn about it, you feel upset," says Seals with RMI.
RMI and three other environmental groups issued a report last year labeling gas stove emissions a threat to human health. They called on policymakers to regulate them more strictly and provide incentives for Americans to switch to electric.
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The gas line out the back of your stove is connected to a production and supply chain that leaks methane from start to finish.
Gas stoves emit pollution into your house and they are connected to a production and supply system that leaks the powerful greenhouse gas methane during drilling, fracking, processing and transport.
"Methane, which is what natural gas is made of, just really wants to leak," says Seals with RMI. That's a problem because methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than even carbon dioxide, though it doesn't linger in the atmosphere nearly as long.
President Biden's climate plan includes a goal to cut the carbon footprint of buildings in half by 2035 through incentives to retrofit homes and businesses with electric appliances and furnaces.
The AGA says methane emissions from gas utilities account for 2.7% of all greenhouse gas emissions, and they've declined nearly 70% since 1990, even as utilities have added customers. But the rest of the supply chain also leaks methane, including drilling, fracking, processing and transport. Some equipment is designed to vent, but much of the gas that escapes is unintentional and has been linked to tree deaths in places such as Boston and Philadelphia.
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To encourage more people to ditch natural gas, environmentalists are focusing on the gas stove. At first it may seem like an odd choice because other gas-burning devices in the home consume more fuel, notably furnaces.
But the stove is seen as a "gateway appliance" that drives the building of a vast fossil fuel infrastructure from wellhead to home. Talk to builders and real estate agents and many will say buyers want a gas stove. And gas utilities have helped fuel that assumption.
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It's not just environmental groups signing on to widespread electrification. The New England Journal of Medicine recently published an opinion piece by three physicians who recommended that "new gas appliances be removed from the market," along with ending industry subsidies and banning new gas hookups in buildings.
The Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank, wants the federal government to offer incentives to switch from gas to electric appliances, water heaters and furnaces.
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I'm a foodie and love to cook. Always have since high school. Always had a small double propane burner to fry fish and cook outside with gas. Now our current home has a gas stove, first time I've had one, and I love it.
These enviro-socialists trying to ban gas stoves can kindly eat shite.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:54 pm to ragincajun03
frick NPR, we don’t need to talk about shite.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:54 pm to ragincajun03
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This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 12:38 am
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:56 pm to ragincajun03
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Josiah Kephart is an environmental epidemiologist at Drexel University in Philadelphia who researches indoor air pollution from cookstoves in Latin America.
God’s work
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:56 pm to ragincajun03
Let’s just say this: in S La where power outages and hurricanes are the norm, gas appliances are crucial. I’ve had 100% reliability gas supply. Much much less on electricity.
And for cooking, If gas stove tops were illegal I would entertain the magnetic cook tops. Some good stuff
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But I do vent the stove top when I cook with my gas range. Makes sense to me to try and get most of the combustion gas out of the house
And for cooking, If gas stove tops were illegal I would entertain the magnetic cook tops. Some good stuff
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But I do vent the stove top when I cook with my gas range. Makes sense to me to try and get most of the combustion gas out of the house
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:56 pm to ragincajun03
The world is full of cucks
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:57 pm to ragincajun03
They want everyone dead, and if you're alive they want you living in tents eating bugs and grass.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:58 pm to ragincajun03
I only use induction burners these days.
Induction and air fryers.
Induction and air fryers.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:58 pm to ragincajun03
Democrats love to tell people how they should be living their life, then do the opposite.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 12:58 pm to ragincajun03
It'd be nice if the administration would focus a little bit more on current pressing issues such as the economy and national security.
You think China gives a shite about climate change? The Western countries will take it on the chin for their economies while China and India take advantage of the liberal gullibility.
You think China gives a shite about climate change? The Western countries will take it on the chin for their economies while China and India take advantage of the liberal gullibility.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:00 pm to BurningHeart
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You think China gives a shite about climate change?
China is one of the leading producers of "green' energy.
It isn't because they care about the environment.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:00 pm to ragincajun03
I guess they want us to eat our food raw, the way Mother Nature intended. Bet they're a bunch of vegans, too.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:00 pm to ragincajun03
Honestly, the Left has become full Thanos at this point:
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:00 pm to ragincajun03
I had to cook with an electric stove and oven for the first time in years a few weeks ago. It was absolutely inferior and infuriatingly hard to regulate Temperature.
ETA: also I can keep my water heater and stove going when the power is out. Nothing I read in that article outweighs the massive benefits of gas appliances.
ETA: also I can keep my water heater and stove going when the power is out. Nothing I read in that article outweighs the massive benefits of gas appliances.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:00 pm to TulaneUVA
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Let’s just say this: in S La where power outages and hurricanes are the norm, gas appliances are crucial. I’ve had 100% reliability gas supply. Much much less on electricity.
Damn good point, but these people don't give two shits about "idiots who live on bayous".
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:01 pm to ragincajun03
The amount of pollutants released by gas stoves is minuscule compared to other sources.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:02 pm to ragincajun03
Wait till they see the people in the Nepal using plastic trash to cook with. Plastic trash via SYN gas is coming and it’s going to be great clean up all the plastic trash and make clean fuel that burns with plenty of BTUs why not invest in this vs electrical bullshite.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:03 pm to ragincajun03
They’re not going to leave us alone to live the kind of life we choose. They’re going to revolutionize the US right out from under our feet, without a shot being fired.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 1:06 pm to mattz1122
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Josiah Kephart is an environmental epidemiologist at Drexel University in Philadelphia who researches indoor air pollution from cookstoves in Latin America.
This is the kind of shite NPR jerks it to.
Coming up on NPR, Hosiah Goldberg focuses on the plight of the left handed autistic bisexual yam farmers of the Peruvian Andes.
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