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Not sure why Uber is entirely leaving CA instead of just raising prices
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:30 pm
I get the new law that mandates treating independent contractors as employees is immensely damaging to bottom line, but the vast majority of Californians will happily pay more in Uber fares to make up the new costs. It’s an inelastic service aka demand for the product doesn’t respond much to higher prices
Uber is throwing away tens of millions of dollars with this move
A lot of people are understandably very upset right now.
Uber is throwing away tens of millions of dollars with this move
A lot of people are understandably very upset right now.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s an inelastic service.
California is an inelastic state.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Hiring takes time. They have no ability to scale quickly. Just take a pause and wait on the vote in a few weeks. Hope something different doesn’t replace in the mean time.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s an inelastic service
Is it?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because uber has balls.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It’s nice to have frick you power. If I were Uber I would tell Cali frick you too
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:37 pm to LoneStar23
quote:Boycott CA entirely, everyone should.
It’s nice to have frick you power. If I were Uber I would tell Cali frick you too
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:38 pm to Sidicous
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Boycott CA entirely, everyone should
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
There's a lot more involved for the company by classifying them as employees other than payroll taxes and administrative issues, so a price increase isn't adequate.
The bigger questions is - why isn't everyone leaving CA as fast as they can?
The bigger questions is - why isn't everyone leaving CA as fast as they can?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Wouldn’t they be required to provide health insurance for the drivers if they’re considered employees because of Obamacare employer mandate? Add that to workers comp insurance. Then what do they do about drivers who live in a neighboring state but spend some of their time driving for Uber in California?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 pm to TheIndulger
quote:FIFY
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I get the new law that mandates treating independent contractors as employees is immensely damaging to bottom line, but the vast majority of Californians will happily pay more in Uber fares to make up the new costs.
Because frick your payroll tax
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
anywhere liberty sticks its neck out, authoritarianism chops its head off
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:43 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Wouldn’t they be required to provide health insurance for the drivers if they’re considered employees because of Obamacare employer mandate? Add that to workers comp insurance. Then what do they do about drivers who live in a neighboring state but spend some of their time driving for Uber in California?
California requires much more then the feds insofar as healthcare.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
California: No reliable electric power, soon to be without Uber or Lyft. Maybe these things will start adding up and knock some sense into some people. Or not.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:45 pm to TheIndulger
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Uber prices have nearly doubled in the past week here in Florida. I made a 6 mile trip from my local dealership dropping my car off for service to my business yesterday for $29. It look less than 8 minutes.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s an inelastic
Every time I hear this I think of Stringer Bell talking about selling dope and coke in Baltimore.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s an inelastic service
I wouldn't say that. If the price goes up people might be more likely to drive their own car, ride with friends, family, co-workers, stay home. People have changed their habits and started using Uber because of the low price. If the price increases they would probably just change their habits again.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I've seen that it's estimated there are 50,000 Uber drivers in CA. Obviously, you can't hire them quickly, so let's just say it's a phased approach - the infrastructure alone to the organization to take on 50,000 people would be HUGE.
But, let's just say they can get away with paying them minimum wage - $12.00 in CA. Then you're looking at $1,250,000,000 in regular wages alone annually ($12.00 X 2080 hours X 50,000). Do you kill OT altogether? Now let's look at benefits and employer taxes.
Take the massive number above and ad 25% for full burden - that's $312,500,000.
Loaded payroll is now $1,562,500,000 for just CA.
Not to mention, again, the additional software, headcount, and other miscellaneous costs associated with that many more people.
Medical costs...let's say the company pays $200 bi-annually for healthcare - $260,000,000
So now $1,822,500,000.
It would easily be over $2B for just the hard costs associated with this in CA, for a company that has revenues of $14B...and it LOST over $8B in 2019.
But, let's just say they can get away with paying them minimum wage - $12.00 in CA. Then you're looking at $1,250,000,000 in regular wages alone annually ($12.00 X 2080 hours X 50,000). Do you kill OT altogether? Now let's look at benefits and employer taxes.
Take the massive number above and ad 25% for full burden - that's $312,500,000.
Loaded payroll is now $1,562,500,000 for just CA.
Not to mention, again, the additional software, headcount, and other miscellaneous costs associated with that many more people.
Medical costs...let's say the company pays $200 bi-annually for healthcare - $260,000,000
So now $1,822,500,000.
It would easily be over $2B for just the hard costs associated with this in CA, for a company that has revenues of $14B...and it LOST over $8B in 2019.
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