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Not sure why Uber is entirely leaving CA instead of just raising prices

Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:30 pm
I get the new law that mandates treating independent contractors as employees is immensely damaging to bottom line, but the vast majority of Californians will happily pay more in Uber fares to make up the new costs. It’s an inelastic service aka demand for the product doesn’t respond much to higher prices


Uber is throwing away tens of millions of dollars with this move


A lot of people are understandably very upset right now.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
23658 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:31 pm to
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It’s an inelastic service.



California is an inelastic state.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:33 pm to
Hiring takes time. They have no ability to scale quickly. Just take a pause and wait on the vote in a few weeks. Hope something different doesn’t replace in the mean time.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:34 pm to
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It’s an inelastic service


Is it?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30769 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 pm to
Because uber has balls.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5162 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 pm to
It’s nice to have frick you power. If I were Uber I would tell Cali frick you too
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17156 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:37 pm to
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It’s nice to have frick you power. If I were Uber I would tell Cali frick you too
Boycott CA entirely, everyone should.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:38 pm to
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Boycott CA entirely, everyone should


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Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
4650 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:39 pm to
There's a lot more involved for the company by classifying them as employees other than payroll taxes and administrative issues, so a price increase isn't adequate.

The bigger questions is - why isn't everyone leaving CA as fast as they can?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21893 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:40 pm to
Wouldn’t they be required to provide health insurance for the drivers if they’re considered employees because of Obamacare employer mandate? Add that to workers comp insurance. Then what do they do about drivers who live in a neighboring state but spend some of their time driving for Uber in California?
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 pm to
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Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36610 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 pm to
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I get the new law that mandates treating independent contractors as employees is immensely damaging to bottom line, but the vast majority of Californians will happily pay more in Uber fares to make up the new costs.


Because frick your payroll tax
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 pm to
anywhere liberty sticks its neck out, authoritarianism chops its head off
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:43 pm to
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Wouldn’t they be required to provide health insurance for the drivers if they’re considered employees because of Obamacare employer mandate? Add that to workers comp insurance. Then what do they do about drivers who live in a neighboring state but spend some of their time driving for Uber in California?


California requires much more then the feds insofar as healthcare.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7694 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:45 pm to
California: No reliable electric power, soon to be without Uber or Lyft. Maybe these things will start adding up and knock some sense into some people. Or not.
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:45 pm to
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Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8964 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:48 pm to
Uber prices have nearly doubled in the past week here in Florida. I made a 6 mile trip from my local dealership dropping my car off for service to my business yesterday for $29. It look less than 8 minutes.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25623 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:49 pm to
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It’s an inelastic


Every time I hear this I think of Stringer Bell talking about selling dope and coke in Baltimore.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4314 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:49 pm to
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It’s an inelastic service


I wouldn't say that. If the price goes up people might be more likely to drive their own car, ride with friends, family, co-workers, stay home. People have changed their habits and started using Uber because of the low price. If the price increases they would probably just change their habits again.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89849 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:50 pm to
I've seen that it's estimated there are 50,000 Uber drivers in CA. Obviously, you can't hire them quickly, so let's just say it's a phased approach - the infrastructure alone to the organization to take on 50,000 people would be HUGE.

But, let's just say they can get away with paying them minimum wage - $12.00 in CA. Then you're looking at $1,250,000,000 in regular wages alone annually ($12.00 X 2080 hours X 50,000). Do you kill OT altogether? Now let's look at benefits and employer taxes.

Take the massive number above and ad 25% for full burden - that's $312,500,000.

Loaded payroll is now $1,562,500,000 for just CA.

Not to mention, again, the additional software, headcount, and other miscellaneous costs associated with that many more people.

Medical costs...let's say the company pays $200 bi-annually for healthcare - $260,000,000

So now $1,822,500,000.

It would easily be over $2B for just the hard costs associated with this in CA, for a company that has revenues of $14B...and it LOST over $8B in 2019.

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