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re: Not moving, not breathing, but a heartbeat. What to do?
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:27 pm to mountaintop
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:27 pm to mountaintop
Stay back so the cop doesn't taze me too bro
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:28 pm to LZ83
No it isnt'. It's to force the air out of their lungs. Actually its to mimic breathing until they begin to breath on their own. Nothing to do with the heart.
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:29 pm to mountaintop
If he's got a pulse then no need for CPR. Just do some rescue breaths.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:38 pm to HollyWoodCole
He's right, and you're stupid, as are the majority of people answering this question.
The patient as presented has a "strong pulse". You do not do chest compressions on someone with a pulse.
The patient as presented has a "strong pulse". You do not do chest compressions on someone with a pulse.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:40 pm to OweO
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Alert someone while calling 911 because I do not having training on that stuff.
Let’s be honest, it isn’t the lack of training that’s stopping you.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:43 pm to mountaintop
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You see a person in their office or a locker room on the ground, no moving, no talking, but you hear a strong heartbeat.
What to do now?
In the CPR technique, do you do chest compressions, or rescue breaths?
If they are apneic and unresponsive but have a pulse then they need oygenation/ventilation...or cardiac arrest is soon to follow.
Chest compressions are for when the patient is pulseless as well.
In this day and age, you just described an opiate overdose patient.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:44 pm to HollyWoodCole
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Start AED if available.
Your dogs don't but you deserve to be kicked if you are ever the reason an AED is used on someone with a heartbeat.

This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:44 pm to HollyWoodCole
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Start compressions
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:45 pm to LZ83
Nope, chest compressions is to circulate oxygenated blood to the system. When you give meds to help save them if you don’t do chest compressions the medicine will not reach the heart.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:45 pm to mountaintop
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In the CPR technique, do you do chest compressions, or rescue breaths?
No need for CPR because
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you hear a strong heartbeat.
So call 911 and make sure the airway is clear. Good chance something is stuck in there.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:47 pm to Tiguar
Thanks Tiguar. Some people took one class and think they know it all. They have never been in a code situation
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:50 pm to mikelbr
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Your dogs don't but you deserve to be kicked if you are ever the reason an AED is used on someone with a heartbeat.
AED will not work on someone with a heartbeat. They have protections for that.
Granted, there may be some sort of way to trick it, like the person being in AFib or something. But using an AED could actually help that situation.
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 8/18/18 at 3:09 pm to fightin tigers
This is one of the many scenarios where I run and grab my backpack to retrieve the 6” needle I’m going to jab into the ribcage. I forget step 2, but step 3 is the memorable interview on the local news.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 3:58 pm to DeafJam73
Bang his wife. Possession is 9/10ths of the law
Posted on 8/18/18 at 4:01 pm to mountaintop
I call 911 and follow their instructions. I'm not trained to give emergency aid, and I don't want to make things worse not knowing what to do.
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